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It would be interesting to see a Dyno of a remapped 09 with stock air box and the same bike after the variable stacks...the remap itself pull out a lot of torque on low-mid rpm already...so what's the real gain (torque) on a mapped 09 by adding the variable stacks? That would be interesting...
If you look on the graph from my dyno run, you see the difference between stock air box and the stacks.
 
Hello everybody,

I just like to mingle in into the discussion about variable air stacks or velocity stacks.
Also in answer to some remarks that are made on this topic.
With these few typed down words and lines I like to explain, and hopefully enlighten, the public a bit about this matter.
And hopefully it clarifies some questions about them, why should you install them and how they work.

First the question, is there a real need for variable air-inlet stacks, or velocity stacks.
No. (period, point, the end, etc.).
Variable velocity stacks are just a way of making an already fine engine breath and therefore perform even better, should you want to.
You see sir? Should YOU want to!
If you are happy with how things are now, then leave it there and be happily on your way.
For those who are ready for more power and want to get more of that out of their trusted, but in fact somewhat tamed steed, read on.

I was reading the following remark:
Does Yamaha leave things out when they don’t install variable stacks right from the factory?
I think not. This is a personal thing, as all modifications, farkles and/or improvement attempts are.
Yes, Yamaha installed these stacks on the R1 and R6 models, but that are motorcycles build with a race track in mind. Simply said they are build for one purpose only.

The CP03 engine obviously is not designed with 1 purpose in mind, but a variety of them.
This engine is designed to perform well from slightly above low, through mid and halfway under high RPM.
With the possibility to tweak that a bit so it will serve a wide array of purposes and therewith attract a wide array of customers.
By this way the manufacturer can make a competitive motorcycle, at a competitive price range.
If they would install a system like the one on the R6, then you also need a minimal 8 or more (mostly) non-sensible “mode settings” on top of the 5 ones that (usually) are already there.
Witch will make the bike (at least) €1000 to €2500,- more expensive then the competition.
All because of a system that the main public does not understand or does not actually need.
I think if you where a bike builder, because of that reason you would leave it out too.
And leave it to a few enthousiast who like to get things a bit further, at their own expenses.

Now for a couple of details, because that is what we are looking at in this matter, details.
Number one is the detail in “perform well”. That means they do not “perform at their best”.
Why is that? Because of the fixed air intake lengths.
1 long, so 1 cylinder performs well at low RPM.
1 middle length, so 1 cilinder performs well at middle RPM
1 short stack, so 1 cylinder performs well at high RPM.

You can visualize it as a cart pulled along by three horses.
1 is a sturdy pulling workhorse, the second is a race horse, and the third is a pony.
For all three RPM ranges there is a horse (or horselike animal) available.
Sounds good, don’t you think?
Well…. What it really means is that no matter at which speed the cart is going, or witch horse is doing the work, it is always just 1 horse that is actually pulling the cart.
The other 2 are either drinking fuel or just farting along.

When you make the air intake variable, you can create an environment where all 3 cilinders perform together at the same time, and (with some tuning) possibly perform at there best, for at least 2 of the RPM ranges
So by this way, 2 of the 3 horses are transformed into strong pulling horses (1 was already there)
And therefore use the strength of the three horses, to pull at the same time.
That is why you see a greater effect in torque than in actual HP.

Variable stacks have to be told when to act, so there is another detail.
At which point in time do you want the stacks to do there magic? Well, that is up to you.
You like to go out and have fun on a race track (or imagine you are on one)?
Then maybe you need them to open at the RPM point where you like to shoot yourself out of a turn or corner, into the next straight.
Or if you are a touring person with some occasionally wild idea’s, maybe opening them on a somewhat lower RPM level will do the trick for you.
In other words, it needs some tuning and testing to fit your personal needs.

Another detail is in the air/fuel mixture. After many tests it is becoming clear that with these stacks in long position, the mixture has to be slightly more rich than stock or standard setting.
When the stacks open up, they need a little bit less fuel than the stock or standard setting
That means that if you use the CP03 engine for commuting only, combined with variable stacks witch are tuned to open above a certain RPM at, let’s say, 100 kph. With some distance of highway traveling, it wil cost you a little less fuel.
(NOTE: A little means a little. It does not mean you will save enough money on fuel in 1 year to pay back for a variable stack system…)

So you see, there are more options than you might have first thought.
There are more details you need to look at in order to get a properly working variable stack system, but sorry, those are designer secrets…

So, in short:

Does it work? oooohhh YES!

When does it work? anytime YOU want it to.

For now, That’s all folks….
Greetings from the designer of these variable velocity stacks,
My name is Danker.
 
Why is that? Because of the fixed air intake lengths.
1 long, so 1 cylinder performs well at low RPM.
1 middle length, so 1 cilinder performs well at middle RPM
1 short stack, so 1 cylinder performs well at high RPM.
Interested in seeing how the variable length stacks work on the Gen3/4 MT, as they come with equal length stacks, unlike the previous models.
 
If yamaha thought it was best to have 3 lengths, then why do the variable length stacks only have 2 positions - why not 3 positions; low, mid, high?
 
If yamaha thought it was best to have 3 lengths, then why do the variable length stacks only have 2 positions - why not 3 positions; low, mid, high?
Why not 3 positions, good question.
1. Because the effect on the low side of the RPM is not that much.
2. This question has been raised before, but in a slightly different form. Tests have proven that when you adjust the 2 parts of the stacks slowly, or in 3 stages, or gradually along with the climbing of the RPM, there is no significant better effect or gain, compared to adjusting them abruptly. Try to imagine the flow of air, it will be very turbulent in-between the stacks when the gap opens slowly. This turbulence is MUCH less when they open more abruptly. The air needs to flow as smooth as possible in 1 direction, and not tumble around. Because of the valve pulses it gets beaten up enough already... Also, when an engine is running faster and faster, do you have any idea how much volume of air passes through there? Try to look that up, I think you will be amazed.
It is a hurricane down there in the airbox. And the stacks have to open up, against that force. Opening them slowly will need more power, funny enough.
3. Adjusting the stacks parallel with the RPM, means you need a different actuation that looks more like a rack and pinion drive. Such a drive is heavier, needs a lot more room and is more prone to failure.
4. If you examen the stacks a bit more closely, you can see that the shape is different from the originals. The originals have elefant ears. A lot of rubber that does not much for guiding air.
 
Discussion starter · #77 ·
@VPMotorsport is there any maintenance required after installing your stacks or can one check everything at normal service intervals?
Hey,

There is no specific maintenance required other than keeping your K&N air filter well oiled so there is no wear on the variable stacks from water, mud, dust and sand.
Checking the stacks during a service interval can't hurt.
 
Discussion starter · #78 · · Business
Hi, are these variable intake stacks compatible with a set of race cams?

For example:

Thanks
Hey @MT09 2014 Sweden,

They are compatible, so can work on the same bike.

We don't know what gain they will give if they are both on the same bike.
But we do know that both on their own give a great performance boost, so we can only guess on how much they will improve.

We are hoping to test them together soon on a XSR900GP and upload some dyno data.
The bike is here in the Benelux, and the owner wanted the stacks + the crowerracing cam shaft installed on his bike. (We are also still in the testing phase for the Gen3/Gen4 variable stacks.)|
 
Dear people on this forum,

I was Googling a funny project from my local motor store, VP-Motorsport, and that’s how I found this forum. I want to share some of my experiences about my “blind” test ride.

A short introduction: I’m Alex, 32 years old and proud owner of a Tracer 900 GT (2018) since 2020. That year, VP-Motorsport fine-tuned my Tracer on a dyno run based on the recommendations of another local Tracer owner. I was happy with the results because the powerband was much smoother from beginning to end.

A few weeks ago, I was waiting for regular maintenance on my bike. Then Wilco (owner of VP-Motorsport) asked if I wanted to take a ride on the VP-Motorsport Tracer 900 while I was waiting. He only said, “I changed some things and I won’t say what I did. But I’m interested in your experiences. Take a short ride and have fun.”

After about 45 minutes, I returned to VP-Motorsport, and my first reaction was: “WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH THIS BIKE, AND CAN WE ALSO DO THAT WITH MY OWN TRACER?” After I gave him feedback about my experiences, he told me about the adjustable air stacks. As you can read, the ride was a fantastic experience compared to my own “tuned” Tracer 900. The VP Tracer felt like a rocket compared to mine.

In short, here’s what I experienced:
  • In all the modes (A, STD, and B), the VP-Motorsport Tracer felt like it had more power and torque. However, it was still possible to ride normally, just like I can with my own Tracer 900 GT. In other words, the motorcycle with adjustable air stacks wasn’t more nervous at all; it rode like a normal Tracer, but if you wanted, you could have a much more racing experience than with a regular Tracer 900.
  • The acceleration felt much quicker, from 0 to well above the speed limit (LOL).
  • The B mode is normally very slow (the machine is too cautious in my opinion), but with the stack adjustments, it was actually a fun mode to ride in.
  • If you drive at low speed in a high gear (e.g., 5th gear at 50 km/h), I felt a big difference. With my own bike, it is difficult to gain speed when I open the throttle, but the VP-Motorsport Tracer handled it easily.
  • The traction control was in the normal setting. When I applied the gas too hard, the TCS was triggered, even in 2nd gear. Note: the road was between wet and dry from some rain earlier that morning. This didn’t happen in 1st gear with my own bike on the way home under the same road conditions.
  • The last funny thing: Making wheelies on the gas handle at higher speeds (75+ km/h) was much easier than on my own bike. It was even possible in 2nd and 3rd gear (LOL). (By the way, I haven’t told Wilco this, so if he reads it, I apologize and hope he still allows me to borrow a motorcycle when mine is at the workshop.)
In conclusion, it was a great experience, and I want this system on my own bike too when I have enough money for it—hopefully next motorcycle season. Before I install it, I’m curious about two things:
  1. The VP Tracer I rode didn’t have a quickshifter, while my GT does. I’m very curious about the experience with a quickshifter!
  2. I’m also curious about the real differences when I ride my Tracer and the VP Tracer together at the same time, so I can swap bikes a few times for a real comparison.
Hopefully, this overview gives a better picture of this project based on my field experiences.

Greetz,
Alex
 
Discussion starter · #80 ·
Hey Guys,

We are finally back with some exciting news.

As you know we made the variable stacks for the Gen 1/2 with the bigger Airbox, but as we tried to mount our facing upwards stacks on the new Gen 3/4 they of course wouldn't fit. So we had to get back to the drawing board to make them way more coned and bent because the way this airbox was created we didn't have a lot of room on the top. (The lid and the bottom of the airbox are totally different) But we finally worked it out, and they look awesome.
Designing these was not an easy task, as our man who does the 3D printing had a lot of trouble getting the shape just right.
We will be testing these this week to see what will happen performance wise, I personally have high hopes for them.
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