Curious which is better and why. I know the mt10 is faster but the mpg sucks but possibly more user friendly. And the mt 09 is a great value for what youre getting. Just curious to hear the opinions of people who have ridden both of these and can say what they liked over the other
MT 09 Vs Mt 10
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MT-09 is better looking, cheaper to purchase and cheaper on Insurance (in TX). I bought new in 2018. Added DNA Air filter, modified air box, installed Graves Block Off plates, full Akro exhaust and had it tuned. 128 at wheel and it is a freaking rocket. I only get about 115 miles to a tank, but I do not care. I can zip and run with the best of them and never have to play catch up.
I also had an FZ1. Those 5V Yamaha heads seriously lack bottom end. So much that I move it on....Race bike engine in a Sports Tourer = not making sense.
My 2021 MT-09 SP I'm sure won't disappoint.
Old thread, new bike lol
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These old 2020 posts about the well-known deficiencies with the 2nd-gen MT-09 make a good case for why the 3rd-gen MT-09 (the SP model especially) is such a good value.
I have zero desire to own a MT-10 - a $13k bike ($15k+ out-the-door) with 145bhp. My ideal motorcycle would be a MT-07 SP if it cost less than a base MT-09 and had as slick of a transmission. I wouldn't even need the up/down quick-shifter or a TFT display - so long as it had really good brakes and suspension. No doubt Yamaha looked at the "MT-07 SP" option and decided that it wouldn't sell well enough at the MSRP required to make it worth producing. As things are, I'll have to make do with slightly less engine-character plus the extra power and smoothness of the 3rd-gen MT-09 (base).
I have zero desire to own a MT-10 - a $13k bike ($15k+ out-the-door) with 145bhp. My ideal motorcycle would be a MT-07 SP if it cost less than a base MT-09 and had as slick of a transmission. I wouldn't even need the up/down quick-shifter or a TFT display - so long as it had really good brakes and suspension. No doubt Yamaha looked at the "MT-07 SP" option and decided that it wouldn't sell well enough at the MSRP required to make it worth producing. As things are, I'll have to make do with slightly less engine-character plus the extra power and smoothness of the 3rd-gen MT-09 (base).
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I dunno about 09 vs 10, but why do 10's look so damn wide? Even sitting next to an R1 wearing fairings the 10 looks wide.
The 07, 09 and 10 aren't the normal progression of bikes. I mean, it's always been going from a CBR 600 to a CBR 1000, you're basically just bumping up in power. But the deal with the FZ/MT bikes is different. Yes, you go up in power between models, but they're totally different bikes with totally different personalities. It's not so much a "vs" thing as it is "collect them all"!
The 07, 09 and 10 aren't the normal progression of bikes. I mean, it's always been going from a CBR 600 to a CBR 1000, you're basically just bumping up in power. But the deal with the FZ/MT bikes is different. Yes, you go up in power between models, but they're totally different bikes with totally different personalities. It's not so much a "vs" thing as it is "collect them all"!
I'm almost 2 years and 21,000 miles on my 2019 MT 10. I still love it and have no desire to buy a new motorcycle. The main reason why I got it was because I wanted more motors. It's a better-handling bike than the 09's. After spending a weekend at the Back of the Dragon with 3 assassins on 09's, it is faster. They consistently outrode me and got off corners faster than me but I could catch them easily because of the motor. Naked liter bikes are a weird category IMO.
The MT 10 is limited by the aerodynamics. I've had it up to 160 and it was stable and had more to give. Still, an R1 will piss on a 10 in a blink as it's really a track bike with lights. The MT 10 motor is tuned for the street. It's never been a good-selling bike and you can get them out the door for $13,000. It's stone-cold reliable as are the 09s. I think it does everything better than the CP3s but the CP3s are a huge bang for your buck motorcycle and I love them.
Put a good rider on an 09 on anything other than the track or a straight line and they can keep up or even be faster. It's all good on Yamahas.
The MT 10 is limited by the aerodynamics. I've had it up to 160 and it was stable and had more to give. Still, an R1 will piss on a 10 in a blink as it's really a track bike with lights. The MT 10 motor is tuned for the street. It's never been a good-selling bike and you can get them out the door for $13,000. It's stone-cold reliable as are the 09s. I think it does everything better than the CP3s but the CP3s are a huge bang for your buck motorcycle and I love them.
Put a good rider on an 09 on anything other than the track or a straight line and they can keep up or even be faster. It's all good on Yamahas.
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I should be able to help here as I just recently traded my 2019 MT-10 in on a 2021 MT-09 SP. First, let me say the MT-10 is an amazing machine, probably the best street bike I've ever had as an experienced rider. Power and torque are available throughout the rev range and the suspension is sublime mid-corner. The exhaust note with any full exhaust is unbeatable. I also took it to the track multiple times and it was very capable and a total blast.
The reasons I decided to go back to an MT-09 (I previously owned a 2016 FZ-09) are few, but we're enough for me to switch. First, I was not the biggest fan of the amount of engine braking the MT10 makes. Engine braking of course is beneficial in many ways, but for me, it was overly aggressive for the street. Second, the bike commands more respect than most considering the amount of power. Electronics are there to help, but you really have to be about your wits at all times with all that grunt. Last, I just really, really LOVE a triple.
For me, the 09 is the perfect blend of power and torque for the street, while still not letting the hooligan moments get completely insane. I should mention though that I would not have made the switch if not for the SP version. Despite all the above reasons, if upgraded suspension wasn't available I would have stuck with the MT10. Its stock suspension is that good. Hope that helps. All jmo of course.
The reasons I decided to go back to an MT-09 (I previously owned a 2016 FZ-09) are few, but we're enough for me to switch. First, I was not the biggest fan of the amount of engine braking the MT10 makes. Engine braking of course is beneficial in many ways, but for me, it was overly aggressive for the street. Second, the bike commands more respect than most considering the amount of power. Electronics are there to help, but you really have to be about your wits at all times with all that grunt. Last, I just really, really LOVE a triple.
For me, the 09 is the perfect blend of power and torque for the street, while still not letting the hooligan moments get completely insane. I should mention though that I would not have made the switch if not for the SP version. Despite all the above reasons, if upgraded suspension wasn't available I would have stuck with the MT10. Its stock suspension is that good. Hope that helps. All jmo of course.
I had my ECU flashed by Vcyclenut within 3 weeks of buying the bike. I feel like it's easy as hell to ride. I'm in heavy traffic quite often and never feel uncomfortable and I've never even tried the slow mode. I'm addicted to the power. I also have K-Tech rear shock and Ohlins cartridges which with the R1 frame and geometry is pretty good. Having owed 2 CP3 bikes, 1 with K-Tech front & rear which would compare to the SP, they were good handling and plush. The MT 10 frame is more rigid and will never have that level of plushness that you can get on the CP3 bikes. For an all around bike that can be a big consideration. It's an interesting comparison.
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I get this. So far, the SP suspension has lived up to what I expected without question.
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Yep walking now myself NHP has no tolerance for an 84 mile an hour on ramp wheelie. Get my license back this week I know this is probably old thread but it was funny to me no more Willies hehehe yeah right. I brought my FC Mt 09 and 2015 brand new it's been my favorite bike 11 to death but test road and mt10 and am considering but it is a fat ass ride.
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Most of us looking at the uprights are because we're done crotching alley over to ride on my last bike was the BMW ss1000r and I loved it but it was just a complete hell to ride for us folks over 50 nowadays. Can't sat I didn't love that bike but just so uncomfortable to take the wife out for the day. BUT GOOD LORD the way that thing just keeps sticking and sticking and sticking all the way up to 199 man it just feels like it gets more and more traction yeah I miss that bike loved it too killed my arms..the R1 was just as bad. That no headlight look the meanest bike out man there looks so bad for you youngsters though enjoy them as oldies will ride the MT
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go on.... I would love to know what they are
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I am getting 32.5mpg on my 2022 MT-09. I'd be in the 20s on a MT-10. No way 😊
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Hi! Im in process to change the bike. 3 years now on 7 tracer gt, with al the goodies, lovey bike, tuned, AK titanium, willbers... BUT, looking 10s and 9s, because of the freaking wind problems. 5 wind shields later, still after let say 500km long tour my head is like watermelon in the washing machine. Yes tryed everything, difrent helmets, and always using ear plugs.. Im185cm. I tried mt10, and it was perfect. Air stream to like 190kmh is non, helmet is quite. And need info about that, how is it on mt 09 vs 10. 09 is way cheaper than 10 here in EU, 10s are starting at 10k €, 9s are 2k less. But really need info about the wind. Allso, on - 10, wind doesn't affect on legs, it doesn't push legs outside. How's with - 9??? Thank you!
Really ???
You must ride with reckless abandon !
I get 44 and I certainly don't baby it
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ECU flash and touching 130s regularly. I rarely sit on cruise. I am also 250lbs if that would affect things at all. 34.5 now.Really ???
You must ride with reckless abandon !
I get 44 and I certainly don't baby it
That explains it
sure does - naked bikes are not aerodynamic and sustaining anything above about 80MPH seems to really kill the fuel economy.That explains it
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I did a back to back test ride MT09 v MT10 (MT09 first) and I made my mind up very quickly ....
The riding position on the MT10 is slightly more lean forward; the cockpit a bit busier and it certainly felt heavier. Physically they are very similar in size I'd say the MT10 felt 10% bigger. What did it for me is that I felt instantly at home on the MT09 and didn't feel like I was going to be limited by the lesser horsepower. I think this is why it is so popular its a perfect road bike for real roads and all the internet buzz I've seen is that acceleration to 100 mph is as good as literally anything you can buy; the only difference between MT10 is its trying to wheelie a lot harder. Ill find out soon picking bike up in 3 days
The riding position on the MT10 is slightly more lean forward; the cockpit a bit busier and it certainly felt heavier. Physically they are very similar in size I'd say the MT10 felt 10% bigger. What did it for me is that I felt instantly at home on the MT09 and didn't feel like I was going to be limited by the lesser horsepower. I think this is why it is so popular its a perfect road bike for real roads and all the internet buzz I've seen is that acceleration to 100 mph is as good as literally anything you can buy; the only difference between MT10 is its trying to wheelie a lot harder. Ill find out soon picking bike up in 3 days
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Actually it will take until 100 mph for the MT-10 to catch up to a 3rd gen MT-09 .. then the MT-10 reliably pulls away of courseI did a back to back test ride MT09 v MT10 (MT09 first) and I made my mind up very quickly ....
The riding position on the MT10 is slightly more lean forward; the cockpit a bit busier and it certainly felt heavier. Physically they are very similar in size I'd say the MT10 felt 10% bigger. What did it for me is that I felt instantly at home on the MT09 and didn't feel like I was going to be limited by the lesser horsepower. I think this is why it is so popular its a perfect road bike for real roads and all the internet buzz I've seen is that acceleration to 100 mph is as good as literally anything you can buy; the only difference between MT10 is its trying to wheelie a lot harder. Ill find out soon picking bike up in 3 days
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