Well, your in the FZ09 site, so I’d guess the majority of the people here chose the FZ09. For me personally the Fz10 is fugley, I really liked the transformers when I was a kid, but I’m not going to pay real money and see the face of an autobot every time I look at my bike. More importantly I was considering a SuperDuke, or Tuono, but the FZ09 is a “more useable package” it has a great motor, but it’s not a bike you can’t use. Its Like the old adage, it’s more fun to drive a slow car fast, than it is to drive a fast car slow, except this is more like this is the quickest bike I can get the most out of when I want to but it isn’t a complete bore when Im riding with less experienced riders.

 

Now that MT-09s have LED headlights, I don’t see a whole lot of difference in looks saying the -10 is ugly compared to the -09. But, if you don’t like the style, you don’t. One thing the styling of the -10 provides is the short wind deflector. I was really impressed with how well it worked up to 100+ mph and never felt the need for a full aftermarket screen. How many screens get rave reviews for their looks?

The -10 has more hp, but also more weight, so power weight ratios are not really that far apart. I managed around 132 mph on my -09 and 143 mph on my -10. With WOT at around 45 mph in 4th gear my -10 starting lifting the front tire off the road and kept rising until I backed off, so the power is more evident in the higher rpm range. However, the extra hp is what kills the gas mileage at around 10 mpg less than the -09. Looking for gas at around 120 miles is a pain. The extra weight of the -10 contributes to the higher build quality you feel on it. It is noticeable. The -10 has the shorter wheelbase of the -07, so cornering was better and the chassis is noticeably stiffer than the -09.

Which one is a better choice? After owning both, I’d say the -09 is more bang for the buck, but I do feel the higher price of the -10 was worth it. There really is no bad choice.

 

Now that MT-09s have LED headlights, I don’t see a whole lot of difference in looks saying the -10 is ugly compared to the -09. But, if you don’t like the style, you don’t. One thing the styling of the -10 provides is the short wind deflector. I was really impressed with how well it worked up to 100+ mph and never felt the need for a full aftermarket screen. How many screens get rave reviews for their looks? The -10 has more hp, but also more weight, so power weight ratios are not really that far apart. I managed around 132 mph on my -09 and 143 mph on my -10. With WOT at around 45 mph in 4th gear my -10 starting lifting the front tire off the road and kept rising until I backed off, so the power is more evident in the higher rpm range. However, the extra hp is what kills the gas mileage at around 10 mpg less than the -09. Looking for gas at around 120 miles is a pain. The extra weight of the -10 contributes to the higher build quality you feel on it. It is noticeable. The -10 has the shorter wheelbase of the -07, so cornering was better and the chassis is noticeably stiffer than the -09. Which one is a better choice? After owning both, I’d say the -09 is more bang for the buck, but I do feel the higher price of the -10 was worth it. There really is no bad choice.

Not the shorter wheelbase of the MT07 but rather the R1! They share the same frame and wheelbase and if you wanted to take the time...and substantial money you could change the mt10's motor over to the R1's.

 

 

Paging ChesterBurnet. He had an 09, moved to a 10, and is probably the best suited to comment (of the people that haven't commented yet).

Personally, I had a few reasons for going an MT-09 over an MT-10. First up was price. 9k MSRP vs 13k MSRP is a pretty big jump. The cost to own is more, too, with the MPG being significantly lower (about 25%) plus another cylinder to take care of. Lastly, I just like the looks of the MT-09 better. There are similarities, but the four-bulb headlight is better looking to me than the two-bulb.

I mostly commute with my bike, so the longer wheelbase made more sense. The better MPG made more sense. The extra HP of the 10 doesn't really add anything for me - the -09 is plenty quick enough for my commute and still super fun to take on the twisties when I get a chance. The big thing the -10 has that I wish I had on the -09 is factory cruise control, but honestly, not a huge deal. There are aftermarket options if I ever decide it's time.

I don't begrudge anyone for choosing an -07 or a -10 over an -09. There's a reason they're all made by the same company, no less. They serve different tastes.

 

You can add cruise control to our bikes for under 600. I did it, and love it. mccruise.com

 

I'm interested in the idea of an MT10, especially that CP engine. But the reality of the 09 makes more sense. There's just too much traffic and too many cops to fully use the litre plus bikes now.
Just a short ride on a Tuono showed me that walking everywhere for a month is only a throttle twitch away.

 

Yep walking now myself NHP has no tolerance for an 84 mile an hour on ramp wheelie. Get my license back this week I know this is probably old thread but it was funny to me no more Willies hehehe yeah right. I brought my FC Mt 09 and 2015 brand new it's been my favorite bike 11 to death but test road and mt10 and am considering but it is a fat ass ride.

 

Every time I thought about cutting loose on my -10 and didn’t, a Sheriff’s Deputy would show up just over the hill or around the corner. Now, the biggest urge I have is to push my BMW to 90 mph versus 140. Without the power, it’s a lot easier to stay out of trouble.

 

^^^ And here we thought you were just being more responsible...

A friend once asked me why not the -10, and my reply was the sound of the triple. It goes right to your soul!

 

I agree with Harry on this one, except for the condoms :-0 When I test rode my -10 before buying it, I thought one major loss would be the CP3 sound. Trust me, the CP4 was even better. It was, without question, what totally convinced me to buy the bike. I also agree that the Tuono V4 is the best sound you’ll ever hear on a motorcycle. I swapped my -10 for a V4 for a day ride with a friend and it was truly memorable. I could have bought one at the time, but it was a little too aggressive as more of a track bike versus highway. I also mentioned the build quality was noticeably better on the -10 than the -09. The same was true of the Tuono compared to the -10.

So, Harry, why didn’t you buy a Tuono? And, please don’t attribute it to your condom budget.

 

No offense old school but you’re out of your mind, that CP 4 of the 10 is, next to the Tuono, the best sounding engine possibly ever. I had to sell mine as it was costing me a fortune in condoms. I had to wear one every time I rode or else I had a mess in my underwear from that sound. Having said that if it was me and I was going to buy another it would be the 9 over the 10. Does the 9 have cruise control on it yet? That would be the one speed bump. Other than that I preferred the 9 over the 10.

 

Interesting topic because there's not a really clear answer. I've owned an XSR900, Fj09 and rented an FZ09 last summer for the ride of my life, probably one of the best days of my life. I absolutely love them all. All 3 have the same motor and horsepower. All 3 have great handling but mediocre suspension. These bikes are an incredible value and are well worth investing in suspension in which case they are at the top of the fun factor scale. One really cool thing that most here know but doesn't get mentioned is that there are a shitload of affordable aftermarket stuff for the CP3 bikes. After I totaled my XSR900, I bought a 2017 FJ09 because I wanted the larger gas tank and better pillion seat. I took a lot of stuff off to make it closer to an FZ09 with a larger gas tank.

The MT10 is not as forgiving and I'm guessing not for everyone. Although I wouldn't really recommend an 09 for a beginner I could see it being sort of ok. The MT10 is definitely for an experienced rider. You're talking 115 HP on an 09 and 160 for a 10. The 09's are fast bikes but on the 10 you rarely going to find an vehicle on the road that is faster until you get into the F1, R1 or Panigale category.

When I was trying to decide whether to move to the MT10, I watched a video and they were drag racing Mclarens and beating them. I was wheeling sideways out of turns before I put a K-Tech rear shock on it. (Note: both the 09 and the 10 wheelie way less when the rear shock is replaced with the right spring for your weight) I'm 250 lbs. It's like riding an open class motocross bike. I've done 145 mph and there is a lot more there if you want it. The 09's are phenomenal handling bikes. The 10 is better. It's 2" shorter wheel base and has an electronic steering damper. It is basically the same chassis as the R1 which is a track bike with lights and it feels like it.

Both the 09s and 10s need suspension work to reveal how incredible the handling is. The forks on the 10 are pretty good and I just needed to get the right weight spring and screw with the oil to get them right. On the 09 I had to do springs and cartridges. Rear shock on the 09 sucks, on the 10 it's a step above at mediocre. I did K-Tech rear on 09 and 10 and it's worth it on both but the 09 cost $795 and the 10 is $1195. Per Lenny from K-Tech, the 09s are a lot more forgiving to get suspension working great. I've found that to be true. The 10 is a lot more difficult. Above 115 mph, the MT10 is way more stable, in fact totally stable. The 10 comes with an electronic steering damper, cruise control and quick shifter stock.

I wouldn't have bought any of them as aftermarket parts but now can't live without all of them. The MT10 is an great handling animal bike. You can spend more $ and get even more animal bikes but this scratches that itch for me. That being said, a better rider than me on any of the CP3s could still beat me in most situations but I'd make them work for it. (Yes I'm willing to admit I'm not in the incredible rider category) The gas mileage sucks. Bottom line, both CP3s and CP4s are big fun. Although I haven't ridden one, I'm betting that the MT07 is big fun too.

As far as sound, the MT10 with an aftermarket exhausts growls and it's cool as hell. As many here know, last month I met Darf from here down in NYC and rode around an empty city for a day. He has an FZ09 with a shorty exhaust and a small silencer and that thing howled. When the sound was bouncing off the buildings it was beyond cool.

I've owed a Ducati Scrambler Classic, an XSR900, and an FJ09 in the last 4 years. My MT10 is the light grey with tomato colored wheels. Surprisingly the 10 is the one that I get the most compliments on. I would have never guessed that.

Can you tell that I'm slightly obsessed with motorcycles.

 

Interesting topic because there's not a really clear answer. I've owned an XSR900, Fj09 and rented an FZ09 last summer for the ride of my life, probably one of the best days of my life. I absolutely love them all. All 3 have the same motor and horsepower. All 3 have great handling but mediocre suspension. These bikes are an incredible value and are well worth investing in suspension in which case they are at the top of the fun factor scale. One really cool thing that most here know but doesn't get mentioned is that there are a shitload of affordable aftermarket stuff for the CP3 bikes. After I totaled my XSR900, I bought a 2017 FJ09 because I wanted the larger gas tank and better pillion seat. I took a lot of stuff off to make it closer to an FZ09 with a larger gas tank.

The MT10 is not as forgiving and I'm guessing not for everyone. Although I wouldn't really recommend an 09 for a beginner I could see it being sort of ok. The MT10 is definitely for an experienced rider. You're talking 115 HP on an 09 and 160 for a 10. The 09's are fast bikes but on the 10 you rarely going to find an vehicle on the road that is faster until you get into the F1, R1 or Panigale category.

When I was trying to decide whether to move to the MT10, I watched a video and they were drag racing Mclarens and beating them. I was wheeling sideways out of turns before I put a K-Tech rear shock on it. (Note: both the 09 and the 10 wheelie way less when the rear shock is replaced with the right spring for your weight) I'm 250 lbs. It's like riding an open class motocross bike. I've done 145 mph and there is a lot more there if you want it. The 09's are phenomenal handling bikes. The 10 is better. It's 2" shorter wheel base and has an electronic steering damper. It is basically the same chassis as the R1 which is a track bike with lights and it feels like it.

Both the 09s and 10s need suspension work to reveal how incredible the handling is. The forks on the 10 are pretty good and I just needed to get the right weight spring and screw with the oil to get them right. On the 09 I had to do springs and cartridges. Rear shock on the 09 sucks, on the 10 it's a step above at mediocre. I did K-Tech rear on 09 and 10 and it's worth it on both but the 09 cost $795 and the 10 is $1195. Per Lenny from K-Tech, the 09s are a lot more forgiving to get suspension working great. I've found that to be true. The 10 is a lot more difficult. Above 115 mph, the MT10 is way more stable, in fact totally stable. The 10 comes with an electronic steering damper, cruise control and quick shifter stock.

I wouldn't have bought any of them as aftermarket parts but now can't live without all of them. The MT10 is an great handling animal bike. You can spend more $ and get even more animal bikes but this scratches that itch for me. That being said, a better rider than me on any of the CP3s could still beat me in most situations but I'd make them work for it. (Yes I'm willing to admit I'm not in the incredible rider category) The gas mileage sucks. Bottom line, both CP3s and CP4s are big fun. Although I haven't ridden one, I'm betting that the MT07 is big fun too.

As far as sound, the MT10 with an aftermarket exhausts growls and it's cool as hell. As many here know, last month I met Darf from here down in NYC and rode around an empty city for a day. He has an FZ09 with a shorty exhaust and a small silencer and that thing howled. When the sound was bouncing off the buildings it was beyond cool.

I've owed a Ducati Scrambler Classic, an XSR900, and an FJ09 in the last 4 years. My MT10 is the light grey with tomato colored wheels. Surprisingly the 10 is the one that I get the most compliments on. I would have never guessed that.

Can you tell that I'm slightly obsessed with motorcycles.

I don't even understand people comparing available top speeds on STREET bikes as any reason to choose one over the other lol.....seriously?? there is just NO TIMES I want to test that on any model against another unless it is on a track of some sort...So I for STREET only ownership? I mean why even treat it as a factor?? Who the hell even CARES if one model tops out 150miles and 15 mph faster than another lol SO THE HELL WHAT?? Same thing with 0-60 contests again WHO CARES? The only metric I care about is the ability of a model to stay with a group of bikes in the twisties because to me it sucks getting left for dead if it is ONLY the bike's lack of power ....other than that? I could care less who arrives first or second etc as it is never an actual race on the public highways....the unwritten gentlemanly rules (IMHO) dictates everyone backing off on the long straight sections, ANd totally backing off and waiting until overwhelmingly safe to pass slower traffic...then too waving ANYONE by that is honestly able to close on you (gawd I HATE people that refuse to submit to an OBVIOUSLY faster vehicle...it is immature, rude and at time dangerous as hell hampering the wrong person) Personally I happily wave a probable faster vehicle by , firstly not wanting to screw up their run but secondly it gives me a rabbit to chase....yes these are just my opinions....but totally right of course lol...actual racing is for the TRACK ONLY....these bodies we have are quite frail and breakable/killable ....PS WATGATT

 

I trust an Italian bike like I trust a Taco Bell fart. The closest tuono dealership is 3 1/2 hours away. No thanks.

I bought a 2020 ninja 1000sx, hands down the best bike I’ve ever owned. This thing is fantastic. Honestly I can’t say enough positive things about this bike.

 

Ive come from a Tuono 1100 to the 09. Reality for me was, do I want to manage the power or be able to use it?

My Tuono had a Gabro tune which unleashes more power. It sounded stunning. It would eat a MT10. But it was a pig around town. For me the 09 gives a nice balance. Light and fun. And riding with my mates, my speed has not changed.

 

My one ride on one was the same, at traffic speeds it was lumpy and jerky. I don't commute anymore, but I doubt I could live with that anyway.

 

The crossplane 4 is definitely a unique sound, no arguing that. As for the power, I can still get into a helluva lot of trouble on the '09.

 

Aside from ridiculous vibrations, the 690 Duke is the most fun bike I’ve ridden.

 

Haven’t ridden the mt10, rather just sat on it and played with the dash. However, I did move from the mt07 to mt09 in a month. The 09 is a great bang for your buck. The 10 does have some finer things such as cruise control, KYB suspension, and comes stock with a quick shifter. The 09 is set up to take a quick shifter though. Not sure why the US models didn’t come stock with it as the UK modes did. I’d recommend the 09 over the 10 given that the 09 does everything the 10 does for less. Plus the 09 gets better mpg

 

I bought My MT09 in early 2020 this is my 2nd Bike first one is a Boulevard M50 that was converted into a Bobber, during the past 4 years I have been doing Action Photography at the local race track Homestead Speedway in Miami.

This allowed me exposure to all of the Race Mechanics and Racers. Yamaha is by far one of the Best hands down when it comes to maintenance and Performance.

I bought the MT 09 because of price and performance, $9368 out the door tax and Tags Palm Beach Yamaha my coach was a big influence on my decision he Has an R1.

The MT09 gives you all the Performance you will need, and if you need more have it Flashed by a Pro Race Shop to unlock all of its dark secrets, but this is not necessary put your Throttle in A-Mode Trac Control in 1 and hold on, Suspension is Soft especially if you are on the Bigger side, Brakes are good once you get dialed in, They are not Brembos but they are good, once you develop good Trail Braking skills and they work fine.

MT09 is a great Bike and boy is it fun, I call mine Grandpa's Therapy $9368 Grandma can't get Mad at that Price.

Mt 10 will run you about 13k and it will never be an R1

It's better to pay a few thousand more and get an R1, if you are financing, it won't make much of a difference on the monthly payments, insurance well that's something else.

 

I bought My MT09 in early 2020 this is my 2nd Bike first on is a Boulevard M50 that was converted into a Bobber, during the past 4 years I have been doing Action Photography at the local race track Homested Speedway in Miami.
This allowed me exposure all of the Race Mechanics and Racers. Yamaha is by far one of the Best hands down when it comes to maintenance and Performance.

I bought the MT 09 because of price and performance, $9368 out the doorTax and Tags Palm Beach Yamaha my coach was a big influence on my decision he Has an R1.

The MT09 gives you all the Performance you will need, and if you need more have it Flashed by a Pro Race Shop to unlock all of its dark secrets, but this is not necessary put your Throttle in A-Mode Trac Control in 1 and hold on, Suspension is Soft especially if you are on the Bigger side, Brakes are good once you get dialed in, They are not Brembos but they are good, once you develop good Trail Braking skills and they work fine.

MT09 is a great Bike and boy is it fun, I call mine Grandpa's Therapy $9368 Grandma can't get Mad at that Price..

Mt 10 will run you about 13k and it will never be an R1

Its better to pay a few thousand more and get an R1, if you are financing, it won't make much of a difference on the monthly payments, insurance well thats something else.

Most of us looking at the uprights are because we're done crotching alley over to ride on my last bike was the BMW ss1000r and I loved it but it was just a complete hell to ride for us folks over 50 nowadays. Can't sat I didn't love that bike but just so uncomfortable to take the wife out for the day. BUT GOOD LORD the way that thing just keeps sticking and sticking and sticking all the way up to 199 man it just feels like it gets more and more traction yeah I miss that bike loved it too killed my arms..the R1 was just as bad. That no headlight look the meanest bike out man there looks so bad for you youngsters though enjoy them as oldies will ride the MT

 

You have to answer the question about the type of riding you have in your area. My FZ1 is a great Florida bike, lots of straights, hi ways with concrete. My MT09 is the most fun experience in Florida and more in the mountains. The 09 is a better hooligan bike in my opinion to wheelie, toss around turns and play with well into limits. I didn’t buy it for top end, I bought to carve! The answer to the question will guide you. Happy Trails! #racerlife

 

I also had an FZ1. Those 5V Yamaha heads seriously lack bottom end. So much that I move it on....Race bike engine in a Sports Tourer = not making sense.

My 2021 MT-09 SP I'm sure won't disappoint.

Old thread, new bike lol

 

MT-09 is better looking, cheaper to purchase and cheaper on Insurance (in TX). I bought new in 2018. Added DNA Air filter, modified air box, installed Graves Block Off plates, full Akro exhaust and had it tuned. 128 at wheel and it is a freaking rocket. I only get about 115 miles to a tank, but I do not care. I can zip and run with the best of them and never have to play catch up.

 

These old 2020 posts about the well-known deficiencies with the 2nd-gen MT-09 make a good case for why the 3rd-gen MT-09 (the SP model especially) is such a good value.

I have zero desire to own a MT-10 - a $13k bike ($15k+ out-the-door) with 145bhp. My ideal motorcycle would be a MT-07 SP if it cost less than a base MT-09 and had as slick of a transmission. I wouldn't even need the up/down quick-shifter or a TFT display - so long as it had really good brakes and suspension. No doubt Yamaha looked at the "MT-07 SP" option and decided that it wouldn't sell well enough at the MSRP required to make it worth producing. As things are, I'll have to make do with slightly less engine-character plus the extra power and smoothness of the 3rd-gen MT-09 (base).

 

These old 2020 posts about the well-known deficiencies with the 2nd-gen MT-09

go on.... I would love to know what they are

 

I dunno about 09 vs 10, but why do 10's look so damn wide? Even sitting next to an R1 wearing fairings the 10 looks wide.

The 07, 09 and 10 aren't the normal progression of bikes. I mean, it's always been going from a CBR 600 to a CBR 1000, you're basically just bumping up in power. But the deal with the FZ/MT bikes is different. Yes, you go up in power between models, but they're totally different bikes with totally different personalities. It's not so much a "vs" thing as it is "collect them all"!

 

I'm almost 2 years and 21,000 miles on my 2019 MT 10. I still love it and have no desire to buy a new motorcycle. The main reason why I got it was because I wanted more motors. It's a better-handling bike than the 09's. After spending a weekend at the Back of the Dragon with 3 assassins on 09's, it is faster. They consistently outrode me and got off corners faster than me but I could catch them easily because of the motor. Naked liter bikes are a weird category IMO.

The MT 10 is limited by the aerodynamics. I've had it up to 160 and it was stable and had more to give. Still, an R1 will piss on a 10 in a blink as it's really a track bike with lights. The MT 10 motor is tuned for the street. It's never been a good-selling bike and you can get them out the door for $13,000. It's stone-cold reliable as are the 09s. I think it does everything better than the CP3s but the CP3s are a huge bang for your buck motorcycle and I love them.

Put a good rider on an 09 on anything other than the track or a straight line and they can keep up or even be faster. It's all good on Yamahas.

 

I should be able to help here as I just recently traded my 2019 MT-10 in on a 2021 MT-09 SP. First, let me say the MT-10 is an amazing machine, probably the best street bike I've ever had as an experienced rider. Power and torque are available throughout the rev range and the suspension is sublime mid-corner. The exhaust note with any full exhaust is unbeatable. I also took it to the track multiple times and it was very capable and a total blast.

The reasons I decided to go back to an MT-09 (I previously owned a 2016 FZ-09) are few, but we're enough for me to switch. First, I was not the biggest fan of the amount of engine braking the MT10 makes. Engine braking of course is beneficial in many ways, but for me, it was overly aggressive for the street. Second, the bike commands more respect than most considering the amount of power. Electronics are there to help, but you really have to be about your wits at all times with all that grunt. Last, I just really, really LOVE a triple.

For me, the 09 is the perfect blend of power and torque for the street, while still not letting the hooligan moments get completely insane. I should mention though that I would not have made the switch if not for the SP version. Despite all the above reasons, if upgraded suspension wasn't available I would have stuck with the MT10. Its stock suspension is that good. Hope that helps. All jmo of course.

 

Second, the bike commands more respect than most considering the amount of power. Electronics are there to help, but you really have to be about your wits at all times with all that grunt.

I had my ECU flashed by Vcyclenut within 3 weeks of buying the bike. I feel like it's easy as hell to ride. I'm in heavy traffic quite often and never feel uncomfortable and I've never even tried the slow mode. I'm addicted to the power. I also have K-Tech rear shock and Ohlins cartridges which with the R1 frame and geometry is pretty good. Having owed 2 CP3 bikes, 1 with K-Tech front & rear which would compare to the SP, they were good handling and plush. The MT 10 frame is more rigid and will never have that level of plushness that you can get on the CP3 bikes. For an all around bike that can be a big consideration. It's an interesting comparison.

 

I am getting 32.5mpg on my 2022 MT-09. I'd be in the 20s on a MT-10. No way 😊

 

I am getting 32.5mpg on my 2022 MT-09. I'd be in the 20s on a MT-10. No way

Really ???
You must ride with reckless abandon !
I get 44 and I certainly don't baby it

 

Hi! Im in process to change the bike. 3 years now on 7 tracer gt, with al the goodies, lovey bike, tuned, AK titanium, willbers... BUT, looking 10s and 9s, because of the freaking wind problems. 5 wind shields later, still after let say 500km long tour my head is like watermelon in the washing machine. Yes tryed everything, difrent helmets, and always using ear plugs.. Im185cm. I tried mt10, and it was perfect. Air stream to like 190kmh is non, helmet is quite. And need info about that, how is it on mt 09 vs 10. 09 is way cheaper than 10 here in EU, 10s are starting at 10k €, 9s are 2k less. But really need info about the wind. Allso, on - 10, wind doesn't affect on legs, it doesn't push legs outside. How's with - 9??? Thank you!

 

I did a back to back test ride MT09 v MT10 (MT09 first) and I made my mind up very quickly ....
The riding position on the MT10 is slightly more lean forward; the cockpit a bit busier and it certainly felt heavier. Physically they are very similar in size I'd say the MT10 felt 10% bigger. What did it for me is that I felt instantly at home on the MT09 and didn't feel like I was going to be limited by the lesser horsepower. I think this is why it is so popular its a perfect road bike for real roads and all the internet buzz I've seen is that acceleration to 100 mph is as good as literally anything you can buy; the only difference between MT10 is its trying to wheelie a lot harder. Ill find out soon picking bike up in 3 days

 

I did a back to back test ride MT09 v MT10 (MT09 first) and I made my mind up very quickly ....
The riding position on the MT10 is slightly more lean forward; the cockpit a bit busier and it certainly felt heavier. Physically they are very similar in size I'd say the MT10 felt 10% bigger. What did it for me is that I felt instantly at home on the MT09 and didn't feel like I was going to be limited by the lesser horsepower. I think this is why it is so popular its a perfect road bike for real roads and all the internet buzz I've seen is that acceleration to 100 mph is as good as literally anything you can buy; the only difference between MT10 is its trying to wheelie a lot harder. Ill find out soon picking bike up in 3 days

Actually it will take until 100 mph for the MT-10 to catch up to a 3rd gen MT-09 .. then the MT-10 reliably pulls away of course

 

I had a 20 R1 and it made a great sound. When I sat on the mt10 and heard the startup it was very reminicent of the sound exactly but the mt10 is bigger overall profile wise and the bike is not as light. The mt09 to me felt like the right amount of streetability with usable power while being nearly as close to the size of the mt07 size wise besides the ridiculous tq down low. However I can see the mt10 for someone who wants to rip their arms off a bit more without breaking their back on the r1