How many people who dislike the spyders have ever really ridden one, and I mean leaning off to the inside of the corner to counter weight the bike through a corner while pushing the back end out? Or lighting up that big fat back tire from a stop while it squirms side to side? How is that not fun and how can you hate on that? Would I, all things being the same, get rid of a bike for one, no, but will I get on one and ride the piss out of it, hell yeah. Anyone that hates these things clearly has never really ridden one and if they have they haven't flogged the piss out of it. If they had I would be really confused on how they couldn't enjoy it. The thread title isn't, "is the spyder better than a bike," it's what do you think about them. They're fun, the fun is slightly different than the bike, but fun is fun. If you think you can only have fun on a bike you must be a really boring person. My 2 cents, feel free to keep the change.