[DNFDOUG]

The red arrorw indicates how much you have left before you will need to push your knee on the ground to get the crashing bike back up on the tire. Kudos to younglion. Oldfart here is not quite to the edge.

 

[Davinci]

Yesterday I rode 218 from corwnall to west point and that road was salty and sandy (its on the side of the mountain along the Hudson river). Usually a great place to lean in the turns and test yourself a bit but dangerous cause you have limited sight around corners.

Yes I was also surprised by the salt - yet again - on the roads in that area yesterday. FF to 4:00 - crossing the bear mountain bridge.

What time where you there Nburk ?

 

[younglion]

I've never seen a real race bike with strips, EVER. I don't mean a street bike that's used for track days, that's not a race. I mean a real race bike as in used in actual races. If you have strips on a real honest to goodness race bike and you're actually racing in competition, you would not fare too well in the standings.

Just stop it already... You don't know what you're talking about.

I run Dunlop NTEC's, 200 series rear tires on my 600 and I was a consistent podium threat in my club AND, I still had .5" - .75" sections of unused rubber on the edges AND, I can post a pic of my elbow slider which has seen the pavement (without the rest of my leathers) to demonstrate just how much lean I was carrying.

Point being on certain bikes with certain tire combo's even racers don't use all the available tire. My buddies Superbike SV650 is another one - he has the 180 rear conversion and is crazy fast, has impeccable body position, and has the same size chicken strips as I do on my race bike.

As has been pointed out here already - how much tire you use it really irrelevant. I can scrub a rear from edge to edge in a parking lot doing 10mph - what does that say about my riding - NOTHING. I'd much prefer to have a nice buffer in my traction circle (mix of lean angle, throttle or brake application, and available grip ie: dry surface, wet, gravel, etc...).

 

[weaponzero]

As a general rule I don't ride hard enough in the street to where body position becomes a factor. I feel that sort of riding is best left to the track only. That being said, I have somehow managed to come to within 0.5" of the edge just on my commute to and from work (stock Dunlops). I do eventually plan on swapping to better tires, but not yet.

 

[C. Dolan]

I've never seen a real race bike with strips, EVER. I don't mean a street bike that's used for track days, that's not a race. I mean a real race bike as in used in actual races. If you have strips on a real honest to goodness race bike and you're actually racing in competition, you would not fare too well in the standings.



Looked to me he hit the yellow line when he went down. That was the 2nd guy.

He hit the 1st guy's downed bike. 1st guy went wide and

hit a partially hidden rock the size of a suitcase, brown like the leaves round it and at the edge of the tree shadow.

He " almost " had the save after his back end fish tailed, but the rock got him.

You can't have an extreme lean angle an a bad line, there is no room for error.

They were following WAY too close for street riding.

Following close like that in the twisties is asking for trouble, which the video proves.

I have been on a few rides with people I don't know.

When they do crap like that I never ride with them again.

From You Tube:

We ( I'm on the yellow Aprilia ) came up on the 2 bikes.___

Observing before passing, saw that the blue bike did not have full control of the corner, was way outside when should have been in more.___

Was leaned over too much for the speed not having enough body out of the seat.___

I tapped the brake just a taste after being in the corner a bit to back off as I could see bad things were going to happen.___

When it did, I was already slowed down a bunch and looking left as I knew the bike would go.

 

[Travis]

Pfft. Chicken strip thread. So predictable. Guys showing off pictures of edge-to-edge wear who live in mountainous areas or who do track days, and guys who live in places where everything is straight freakin line riding defending why they don't need to do that on the street. Usually followed by defensive fact-filled posts about safety and anti-macho blah blah.
Whatever.

 

[edgyver]

No real mountains. No track days. Just a goofy old man on a bike. =)

 

[beck]

I always pose with my nuts next to my strips. They cover the area of my tire not scrubbed

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[Motley]

Pfft. Chicken strip thread. So predictable. Guys showing off pictures of edge-to-edge wear who live in mountainous areas or who do track days, and guys who live in places where everything is straight freakin line riding defending why they don't need to do that on the street. Usually followed by defensive fact-filled posts about safety and anti-macho blah blah.
Whatever.

Amen!

 

[520FZ09]

Haha... This was a topic back on the R1
Forum when I was there. After about 70 miles up twisties this is all I got. Not interested in testing the OES sliders...

 

[CD599]

There is something to be said about not riding on the very edge of the tire...so you leave some room for error....BUT not using MOST of that rear tire {on the street} means you're pretty slow in the cornering game. Any more than 1/4 inch of chicken strips means you could be cornering faster. Lean the bike over until you have a 1/4 inch left ...and THEN it's time to start hanging off a bit. Most bikes come with geometry that won't allow using all the front tire....so the front chicken strips would always be wider than the rear are. If you change tire brands.....that rule doesn't apply.

 

[threesvts]

Just stop it already... You don't know what you're talking about.

I run Dunlop NTEC's, 200 series rear tires on my 600 and I was a consistent podium threat in my club AND, I still had .5" - .75" sections of unused rubber on the edges

What was your reason for using a 200 on a 600cc? Seems kinda wide. Like you'd run out of lean angle before running out of tire.

 

[nburkhouse]

Yes I was also surprised by the salt - yet again - on the roads in that area yesterday. FF to 4:00 - crossing the bear mountain bridge.

What time where you there Nburk ?

Maybe 3:30 or 4. I was riding with a Black 1999 ZRX1100.

 

[nburkhouse]

The red arrorw indicates how much you have left before you will need to push your knee on the ground to get the crashing bike back up on the tire. Kudos to younglion. Oldfart here is not quite to the edge.

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Yes, I have been called an oldfart. lol I have surpassed the half century mark, sure wont see a full one!

 

[FZ9Bandit]

Only real turds care about other peoples stuff, Ride your own ride. Quit being a douche, and have fun.

 

[baddboy]

Yes I was also surprised by the salt - yet again - on the roads in that area yesterday. FF to 4:00 - crossing the bear mountain bridge.

What time where you there Nburk ?

we do the bear mountain trip a couple of time a year. good times!!

 

[younglion]

What was your reason for using a 200 on a 600cc? Seems kinda wide. Like you'd run out of lean angle before running out of tire.

I wish I could tell you it was because of a lot of very technical reasons but the reality is that it's what the tire vendor recommends for my bike and track. I have worked with him for a few years now and he does a lot of work for AMA level guys right down to us lowly Club Racers and if he says the 200 rear is a better option then that's what I have him spoon on the bike. The R6 turns lightening quick anyway, perhaps if it was a GSXR that needs a boat load of rear ride height to get it to turn it might be more of an issue but having the wider 200 rear feels good and obviously offers quite a large contact patch.

It's not only me that uses them, practically everyone I race against uses it from the lap record holder right down to the casual track day rider.

 

[DNFDOUG]

Only real turds care about other peoples stuff, Ride your own ride. Quit being a douche, and have fun.

Who are you calling a douce?

Also, I was referring to myself as Oldfart, and I was totally impressed with Younglion's lean capabilities.

 

[C. Dolan]

I wish I could tell you it was because of a lot of very technical reasons but the reality is that it's what the tire vendor recommends for my bike and track. I have worked with him for a few years now and he does a lot of work for AMA level guys right down to us lowly Club Racers and if he says the 200 rear is a better option then that's what I have him spoon on the bike. The R6 turns lightening quick anyway, perhaps if it was a GSXR that needs a boat load of rear ride height to get it to turn it might be more of an issue but having the wider 200 rear feels good and obviously offers quite a large contact patch.

It's not only me that uses them, practically everyone I race against uses it from the lap record holder right down to the casual track day rider.

That's a lot of meat.

Is that on a 6 or 6 1/2 inch rim ?

 

[FZ9Bandit]

Who are you calling a douce?

Also, I was referring to myself as Oldfart, and I was totally impressed with Younglion's lean capabilities.

No, no, no, I was referring to those that think you have to somehow prove yourself to fit in. If I was referring to you I would have quoted ya .