[Desert Rat]

I live in the good ol USA in the south, i can just shoot. lol.

I don't care what state you live in, you can't get away with shooting an escaping thief. You have to be able to make a credible claim that you were in fear of your life. Any holes you make in the perp had better be from the front.

 

[Obijack]

Some states vehicles are considered an extension of your home, those same states have what is known as a castle law which basically means anyone who trespasses and the owner feels threatened by their presence can shoot. Don't have to prove they had a weapon, or that your life was in immediate danger. They were not invited into your home and thus are considered to have malicious intent. It varies greatly from state to state, especially states with duty to retreat laws.

I see the point you are making, but your analysis of the castle doctrine is a bit skewed. Without giving any legal advice, I will say that there are major legal differences between car jacking, home invasion, and motorcycle theft from a driveway.

 

[ryderjay]

I see the point you are making, but your analysis of the castle doctrine is a bit skewed. Without giving any legal advice, I will say that there are major legal differences between car jacking, home invasion, and motorcycle theft from a driveway.

I'm just speakin in general. Not saying you can blow away a thief just because. And it wasn't an analysis, just a broad generalization of the law in response to the differences mentioned between the U.S. And other nations regarding firearms.

 

[ryderjay]

I don't care what state you live in, you can't get away with shooting an escaping thief. You have to be able to make a credible claim that you were in fear of your life. Any holes you make in the perp had better be from the front.

Watch the video of the guy shooting a car thief in Georgia. We were just debating about it at work the other day. Half said the man did not meet the requirement for deadly force, other half said he did. My argument was the owner placed herself in danger, failing to meet her duty to retreat and thereby escalating the situation. The man who pulled his weapon and shot was not aware of the circumstances and discharged a firearm in a busy intersection at the car wash. It's an interesting situation to think on.

 

[River]

park inside, seriously if a thief wants it bad enough its gone, but don't make it easy on them. this guy had his steering locked, so really other than chaining it to something or putting it inside there isn't anymore he could have done. they will catch the sons guy, he took the hoodie hood off and looked right at the camera

 

[Chris Botha]

34 year old guy caught for doing this.

https://www.facebook.com/nswpoliceforce/posts/10152917751226185

 

[ryderjay]

park inside, seriously if a thief wants it bad enough its gone, but don't make it easy on them. this guy had his steering locked, so really other than chaining it to something or putting it inside there isn't anymore he could have done. they will catch the sons guy, he took the hoodie hood off and looked right at the camera

You'd be surprised how low on the priority list a stolen motorcycle is for most police departments. Unless the guy gets picked up on an unrelated offense the bike is likely gone for good after 48 hours. In rare cases they find a big outfit and recover a decent amount of bikes stored somewhere. But typically its too late. Best defense is prevent the bike from being moved, that being said I still use Scorpio Ride on my bikes. Have one one the way for the FZ. Also military and police / fire get a discount if you order direct thru Scorpio. Just call them and they will tell you have to get a discount code for any interested in a GPS alarm solution.

 

[River]

also I cant speak for all states, but in texas lethal force defending your property on your property is legal. you cant chase him down and shoot him, but if you catch him in the act in your yard you can. to my knowledge its the only state where that is legal.

 

[ryderjay]

also I cant speak for all states, but in texas lethal force defending your property on your property is legal. you cant chase him down and shoot him, but if you catch him in the act in your yard you can. to my knowledge its the only state where that is legal.

Gotta love the lone star state. There are clever ways around it in other states (especially those with stand your ground laws) as the law is up for interpretation. But regardless of you are hit with criminal charges or not, you may still lose your motorcycle even if you prevent the theft. Civil suits are guaranteed and you'd be shocked at some of the rulings regardless of the fact that the person or their family suing were involved in a criminal act. Huge ripple effect caused by discharging a firearm justified or not. Very expensive, and takes a long long time to put behind you. Personally m car and bike aren't worth the trouble. My family however, I wouldn't think twice to pull the trigger if I remotely suspected they were endangered.

 

[Lateralus]

Not my saying but what i heard at a CCW class it took. "Every bullet comes with a lawyer attached to it." Theft insurance is a no brainer.

 

[CD599]

Watch the video of the guy shooting a car thief in Georgia. We were just debating about it at work the other day. Half said the man did not meet the requirement for deadly force, other half said he did. My argument was the owner placed herself in danger, failing to meet her duty to retreat and thereby escalating the situation. The man who pulled his weapon and shot was not aware of the circumstances and discharged a firearm in a busy intersection at the car wash. It's an interesting situation to think on.

I live in Georgia and saw the vid 50 times. No charges were filed against the shooter because the cops view it as protecting the life of that dumb ass woman on the hood of the car. Personally...I think the shooter was wreckless and just looking for a reason to use a gun.

 

[Grrrumble]

My guess is - theft over 5000 = never gets a passport or visa to travel , never gets a job around money or security or in a trusted position. Probably would get small reward if it's repo , if it's theft maybe 100 each if the gas tank is full. I moved many voluntry repos and the way that was taken and the filming proof of who did the damages , if I did that I would lose my job

 

[beck]

32 posts and not a single flame on this guys reverse skills?!

 

[Mothy]

32 posts and not a single flame on this guys reverse skills?!

LOL! Oh, I was thinking it...
The way they just dumped the bike in the trailer threw me for a loop... no respect at all, just a paycheck.

 

[AridersLife]

i would like to point out they caught the guys who did this.

 

[OZMT09]

Apparently he got the bike back albeit a bit worse for wear.

 

[bryce]

I would be sick. You take care of ur bike, and some ass hole does this. Give me new please.

 

[Rideittor]

i would like to point out they caught the guys who did this.

Good to hear! Get those cops some donuts STAT!

 

[Rocky_MTN_FZ09]

The sad part is they get a slap on the wrist and in a few weeks or days, they are back at it again.

Which reminds me, has Scorpio made up a connection kit for the 09 yet????

 

[ryderjay]

The sad part is they get a slap on the wrist and in a few weeks or days, they are back at it again.

Which reminds me, has Scorpio made up a connection kit for the 09 yet????

Just buy the Ride system from scorpio. That's going in my FZ the second I get it home. You can later add the traditional alarm system if you want also to the Ride module. Nice thing about it is since its GPS etc it pays for itself thru your insurance discount.

The ride module connects with three wires. Constant power, constant ground, and switched power. Tuck the module and GPS antenna away and you've got a great security system. Also a good way to get help if you're in an accident or lost and pure not sure where you are cause you can send your location to friends and family. Can also activate real time location sharing, see your actual speed etc.