I just filed a complaint for the CCT problem. It's not just noise now, it's causing the engine to sieze up, and die at 60 and 65mph two times now, nearly killing me on the second event.
I've ordered the manual adjuster, but it frosts me that I have to spend 90.00 and change to fix what Yamaha should be doing in the first place on this bike.
Yamaha needs to pay us all back if we have had to buy manual CCT adjusters, or provide an option that works without failure. (And I don't know of anyone who has had this problem, that's been fixed completely by the replacement of a "new" failed design CCT.)
I just filed a complaint for the CCT problem. It's not just noise now, it's causing the engine to sieze up, and die at 60 and 65mph two times now, nearly killing me on the second event.
I just filed a complaint for the CCT problem. It's not just noise now, it's causing the engine to sieze up, and die at 60 and 65mph two times now, nearly killing me on the second event.
Depends. I had my FZ09 all set up to be picked up and the day before I was scheduled to get it I was informed that my bike fell within the recall parameters for the shift linkage and that Yamaha had apparently had to produce more of the correct linkages for the recalls and there were none in the shop. I had a five hour drive to do so (suitable discount due to a family friend knowing the dealer, so the price was worth it), with a Uhaul truck rented to strap it on the bed to, so a sizable amount of pocket change was tied up in being able to do a 10 hour drive and return the truck so I didn't get extra charges. Thankfully my dealer had another shop overnight one of their linkages and had the whole fix done between 10:00 am when the package came in and 3pm when I got out there to pick the bike up.
It's one of those things that the dealer isn't allowed to release the bike with having the issue on. So they fix it when they notice it, I guess? I assume it's suitably late enough in the season with the recall being made aware that more parts were produced and dealers are proactively fixing them now.
I don't know if you saw my post on the other related active thread, but the recall is not for casting marks. It refers to the sheet metal arm that's attached to the casting. The sheet metal tab was bent at a very tight sharp 45 degree angle with no visible radius in the bend. The metal thickness is roughly 1/16" and the proper bend radius is also about 1/16". The design of the radius is to eliminate the potential for a stress riser in the bend that could fatigue and fracture breaking off the shift tab. My original part that was replaced had no visible radius in the bend and the new replacement part did. The recall was legitimate. The old part may never break, but Yamaha is liable and is replacing them. I debated about getting it done too, but I'm glad I did. I worried about the old one every time I shifted. No more worries.
I just filed a complaint for the CCT problem. It's not just noise now, it's causing the engine to sieze up, and die at 60 and 65mph two times now, nearly killing me on the second event.
Yamaha is just ****ing around with this issue to try and save some coin on the backs of their customers.
Took my bike to the Dealership here in Toronto to get the Linear throttle done and asked about the CCT, the Dealership found the technical "memo" as Yamaha calls it and told me that she will order the part since she knows that it will need replacement, we made the appointment and off i went.
Next day the Dealership called me and told me that Yamaha didn't approve the replacement for the part because they first had to make an adjustment and see if that fixed the problem, then if the noise came back they will only then approve the replacement of the CCT.
I called Yamaha head office here in Canada and they confirmed what the Dealership told me, so I said that they were going to make me go to the dealership and lose a day of work, for them to do an adjustment that it wasn't going to last more than 1 day and then I would have to lose a second day and get the part replaced. They basically gave me a bunch of BS on how most times the adjustment work, bla bla bla.
So I got the adjustment and of course a day later, the noise was back.
So i had to bring the bike back to the dealership for them to confirm the noise was back and then they finally ordered the part, so now i have to go back for a 3rd time.
They are hoping people get fed up and buy their own part, or just live with it or do some work around. All to save a few dollars. I am not impressed!
Folks I do think a class action law suit will open Yamaha's eyes on this one.
A few folks they will ignore, and push us off.
But we need to get all the data, for all the folks who have failed CCT's, or have bought manual ones from Graves/APE, and then present that to a judge asking for a Class Action Law Suit.
Everyone can then sign on to the suit, it will force Yamaha to come to the table, and they will have to do something about this.
Until then, they will just tell us all to go F'k our selves.
Folks I do think a class action law suit will open Yamaha's eyes on this one.
A few folks they will ignore, and push us off.
But we need to get all the data, for all the folks who have failed CCT's, or have bought manual ones from Graves/APE, and then present that to a judge asking for a Class Action Law Suit.
Everyone can then sign on to the suit, it will force Yamaha to come to the table, and they will have to do something about this.
Until then, they will just tell us all to go F'k our selves.
Folks I do think a class action law suit will open Yamaha's eyes on this one.
A few folks they will ignore, and push us off.
But we need to get all the data, for all the folks who have failed CCT's, or have bought manual ones from Graves/APE, and then present that to a judge asking for a Class Action Law Suit.
Everyone can then sign on to the suit, it will force Yamaha to come to the table, and they will have to do something about this.
Until then, they will just tell us all to go F'k our selves.
I never played with the CCT, other than trying the "set screw" type fix. I had to buy new allen wrenches to get the CCT removed, my other set has T handles, and don't fit into the space needed to get as the inner mounting bolt on the CCT. And they don't fit down into the CCT to adjust it, and the smaller loose ones I had were the wrong size, so I was never able to adjust the CCT tighter, or looser, but just put a set screw in finger tight to limit it from being too loose.
And I don't advocate that, knowing what I've found out, the CCT is not limited in how far it will adjust. (In the range of use that is, it will go way too far, that's for sure.)
If Yamaha wants to do a mechanical automatic CCT, it should determine the max distance out, and design it so the unit can not adjust past that point. This would ensure nobody can have a massive failure of the cam tensioner from it being pushed out too far into the cam chain tensioner.
The good news is, after denying warranty coverage, then Yamaha called back, and now will cover it. They want me to agree to a dealer service after it's done, and I am happy to have them do that. It will be interesting to see if the unit they use when my bike is repaired, will be the same one, or a new version, and if I'll have any TICK noises with the new setup? I'm guessing they will want to service the engine at 600 miles again, after it's all done, since there was lots of debris run through the engine when the CCT failed.
Perhaps class action suits are not just for the suits? LOL.
In any case, I'm happy to have Yamaha step up, and cover the machine. Thanks Yamaha.
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