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Anyone experienced taking off paint when polishing wheels??? Weird situation today with rear rim. Washed the bike, went with Chemical Guys oil and wax remover over it to clean chain oil debris before putting it for winter sleep, after that cleaned with carpro eraser to remove any oils before polish..... started to polish with hand and sonax light polish and on pad there is blue residue.... wtf
 

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When my Gen1 with the same color wheels was new, I initially had a little bit of that color runoff after cleaning the wheels. Not as much as you, though. It stopped after a while. I'd be careful of what you use to clean the wheels. Most polishes have light abrasives in them.
 

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Prob. just surface imperfections in the finish overspray, dust residue.
Some "cleaner/polish" have pretty strong solvents and abrasives blended in as well and on water borne finishes can be harsh on the surface layer the first couple times they are used.
They work really well at removing that overspray and the like.
 

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My '16 FZ 07 had the blurpke wheels with the matte finish. The paint bled constantly. Three years and 30,000 miles later the paint would still come off when I would wipe a spot with alcohol to install wheel weights. The gloss black paint on my '16 FZ 09 wheels were only slightly better.

Regardless, polish is an abrasive and is MEANT to remove material. Don't use polish if you don't want that. Just use wax if you're wanting to seal something.
 

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My '16 FZ 07 had the blurpke wheels with the matte finish. The paint bled constantly. Three years and 30,000 miles later the paint would still come off when I would wipe a spot with alcohol to install wheel weights. The gloss black paint on my '16 FZ 09 wheels were only slightly better.

Regardless, polish is an abrasive and is MEANT to remove material. Don't use polish if you don't want that. Just use wax if you're wanting to seal something.
It was just finishing polish, no strong abrasives, and with so light pressure on fine sponge, that wouldn't remove anything... but probably that kind of paint. And this paint isn't sealed with clear coat
 

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I typically clean the wheels with a bit of mild hand soap and water, and spray it on from a misting bottle. Afterwards I use a silicone spray and then wipe off the excess with a clean rag. Never had an issue with the paint bleeding off...I do agree with avoiding polish! A friend does the same for cleaning but finishes off with pledge then wipes down with a clean cloth.
 

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But i mean... paint that you can't polish.... what kind of paint is that. Especially on wheels as they are subject to much more dirt and grime than anything else.
 

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Thing is there is a difference between polish and wax!! Polish has abrasives and wax does not. Do a search for "car polish vs wax"
I'm well aware of polish and wax, wax is only sealent polish is abrasive, but under polishes you have just like in sand paper different hardness or how to put it. Polish I use is not compund for removing deep scratches, its more like finishing polish and its not that aggressive. On any paint lets say on a car, with this one and with hand you wouldn't take anything off. So i didn't polish in a way it should be, more like applying wax by hand. I just went around the rim to clean it a bit before waxing. It was a surprise to se how easily paint is going off.
With same polish i have to use polisher and do it pretty well to se anything on my car paint.
 

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Are the wheels painted or powder coated from the factory? I use Simple Green to clean the wheels.
 

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Who even spoke anything regarding polish and wax....
I brought it up but wasn't trying to bust your balls about it. Some people aren't aware, but you understand.

Either way, yeah, whoever is painting wheels for Yamaha needs to use better products. I agree that wheels live in a harsh environment and should be able to withstand scrubbing.
 

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I brought it up but wasn't trying to bust your balls about it. Some people aren't aware, but you understand.

Either way, yeah, whoever is painting wheels for Yamaha needs to use better products. I agree that wheels live in a harsh environment and should be able to withstand scrubbing.
If they could, they would still use old school paints and powdercoats. Far cheaper, and dosent require near as expensive of equipment to apply it.
Unfortunately the EPA and other overseas gubbermint bureaus that regulate factory emissions dosent allow for it.
Instead of solvent based they use waterborne that is electrostatic bonded and baked or a plant ester based dry coat.
Lot better for the environment but way too thin and not very durable at all.
 

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I know guys who were painting water towers with waterborne paint well over a decade ago. Fussy to apply, but stayed on the structures longer. I'm sure waterborne tech has only improved since then.

Water or solvent based, cheap is still cheap.
 

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Do not use polishing stuff, I might be wrong but I know polishing materials are actually taking off paint or coating slightly to make the surface even. I use wd40 and some clean rugs to clean both wheels, works well everytime.
 
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