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First off would like to say thanks for the welcome to the forum. So I've been looking to get a motorcycle for a while now and I'm really set on either the Fz-07 or the 09. However I really like the 09's because of the color options and the way it looks. People are going to ask my riding experience, which on the street is none. However I have been riding dirt-bikes for 6 years and am now looking to get on the road. I have read the forums about the 09 not being a beginner bike which I won't argue at at all. Just the price point between the two bikes is really minimal and I want to get the most for my money. I don't want to get the 07 and then later wish it was the 09. I'm not an overzealous rider by any means. I feel fairly confident I could handle this beast with respect. Just looking to get input on which you guys would recommend.
 

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Seeing how you're asking on an 09 forum I'm going to say the FZ-07....




....NOT!
 

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I rode both and they're both great bike. I rode dirt a lot back when I was a kid... way different. In your case the FZ07 would be a better choice IMO. I'm sure that you are more than capable to handle the FZ09 but the riding style is different and it's so easy to get over your head on the FZ09! On the other hand, the FZ07 is a better bike right out of the box (Power put aside) Get one and I'm sure if you don't beat it up too much you can trade it in a year or two from now and still have a good price for it.

You know better... I agree that price point go big early totally make sense.
 

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+1 I'd like to add I know quite a few riders with many years, and more importantly miles, of experience that chose the 07 over the 09. The 09 has some weaknesses that are not apparent on the 07. Don't be fooled into thinking the 09 is far superior for a few dollars more. They are both great bikes but as Marthy suggested the road is a totally different animal than what you've been riding. It's waaaay easier to get in over your head on the 09.
 

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The main problem with the 09 is the motor easily out drives the suspension. So you will need to upgrade it if you are a spirited rider. I would imagine the 07 has much less power/ tq. would be more stable in its stock form.
 
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(Always) get the bike that (best) suits your needs.
WTF does that mean....??? He obviously doesn't know....!!!!

Me thinks you're just trying to confuse him.........:cool:
 
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First off would like to say thanks for the welcome to the forum. So I've been looking to get a motorcycle for a while now and I'm really set on either the Fz-07 or the 09. However I really like the 09's because of the color options and the way it looks. People are going to ask my riding experience, which on the street is none. However I have been riding dirt-bikes for 6 years and am now looking to get on the road. I have read the forums about the 09 not being a beginner bike which I won't argue at at all. Just the price point between the two bikes is really minimal and I want to get the most for my money. I don't want to get the 07 and then later wish it was the 09. I'm not an overzealous rider by any means. I feel fairly confident I could handle this beast with respect. Just looking to get input on which you guys would recommend.
My background is similar to yours although I'm missing all that dirt exp. You're correct in assuming it's certainly possible to get in over your head "if" you're not careful. I've got the 09 and No regrets, but I often think about how I'm riding a fast bike kind of slow, whereas if I'd waited for the 07 I might be riding a slower bike faster... Spend you're first several months in "B" mode and I'm sure you'd have no regrets.:cool:

A good compromise might be to get the Rapid Red 07 because everyone knows the Rapid Red Bikes are the Fastest Yamaha makes! :)
 
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My background is similar to yours although I'm missing all that dirt exp.
You have a good sense of humor.

I consider myself an 850 rider. Your first road bike might set the bar for a lifetime. Are you a cityslicker , big town full of riders and do you have friends with newer motorcycles? Steve101 is right that riding fast on a slower bike is usual. I Expect r3's to be passing me next year. I might pass them back on one wheel but will likely let them go.
 

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My first ever motorcycle is the FZ-09 and I've had it for 7 months now and just rolled over 10000 kms and I have zero regrets about getting the 09. I also had no street experience and some sporatic dirt riding when I was a teen and I feel anyone can ride this bike as long as you start with a healthy amount of respect for the thing. If you're mature and cool headed then I'd say get the 09 but if your a bit of a loose cannon then stay with something less powerful.
 
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I was in the market for a sport bike, I've always ridden dual sport before and never had a sport bike.

Reasons I chose the FZ09 over the FZ07:

3 cylinders on the 09

3 riding modes on the 09

Over 100 hp (I was tired of the sluggish DRZ)

Taller seat height, (not by much but the bike felt bigger under me, and i'm a taller guy so this was important.

The final and maybe the most important deciding point, is that I got the bike a little under 8K OTD, it was owned previously by a guy who only put around 1000 km's on it. His wife found out about the bike and made him sell it back to the dealer. So I got a huge discount. No brainer spending a few hundred more dollars for all that extra bike.

So I guess it depends on your budget and how big you are, riding skill comes into play a bit but with the fixed ECU's on the 2015's it shouldn't be as much of an issue. Ride in B mode for a while as you get used to the bike.
 

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Xeial, you are in exactly the same boat as I. I'm looking for my first street bike. Like the previous poster mentioned, only you will know the level of comfort you will have with a powerful bike and also knowing your riding style. I know many young kids who get their "crouch rockets" and have survived. You must respect your bike and it's capabilities. I've heard a comedian once say "You can't fix stupid."
I've already make my mind and will be getting a 09 very soon. I know myself all too well that if I got a 07, I'd want to upgrade in a few years.
 

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It all depends on what you want. Do you want the extra power of the 09 that will float the front wheel in 4th gear when the stock suspension squats? Do you want 20% less fuel consumption of the 07? Are you just looking for a fun street bike to ride? Either will do! Are you looking for a bike that will entertain your thirst for POWA! (the 09 will do that) Insurance will be cheaper with the 07. Maintenance will be about the same for both, save the tire changes... ;)
I guess you need to assess what you intend to use the bike for, and how easily it fits into your life and your particular riding style. I still look for a time a place to use the 09 to it's fullest almost every time I ride... I really enjoy having the power available if the opportunity presents itself. Maybe you do too? If so, the 09, with respect and restraint, may be your best choice.
 

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I have no idea why first time bike owners think they are keeping the first bike for years and years...but they never do. The average ownership is 18 months. You might as well ask..."how fast can I die"? It's like...."how much horsepower can I get for the least amount of dollars". Bad idea. Very bad. Also I have no idea why first time bike owners only consider price when buying a bike.

And EVERY single time the experienced guys say ..."don't get a 100hp bike as your first bike"....they do anyway. It defies logic. So really....why ask in the first place?
 
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^^^^ - so true for me... I had a new bike every year for the first four years of riding.
 

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First off would like to say thanks for the welcome to the forum. So I've been looking to get a motorcycle for a while now and I'm really set on either the Fz-07 or the 09. However I really like the 09's because of the color options and the way it looks. People are going to ask my riding experience, which on the street is none. However I have been riding dirt-bikes for 6 years and am now looking to get on the road. I have read the forums about the 09 not being a beginner bike which I won't argue at at all. Just the price point between the two bikes is really minimal and I want to get the most for my money. I don't want to get the 07 and then later wish it was the 09. I'm not an overzealous rider by any means. I feel fairly confident I could handle this beast with respect. Just looking to get input on which you guys would recommend.
I'm probalbly way older than you but came to street bikes recently via the FZ09 after 30 years of off-road "dirt bikes". Some dirt bikes are very quick... as you probably know. The first time I rode the FZ09, it felt like a "dirt bike" to me... position, weight, quickness, acceleration... especially compared to "sport bikes"; cruisers, etc. I rode the FZ in B Mode for months since the other modes were herky-jerky and the engine is so powerful it is "easy" to apply too much power... the big difference between dirt bike off-road and this one on pavement is when the dirt-bike power hits, the rear wheel can spin (easily) but the FZ wheel has immense traction on pavement, hence easy wheelies...and acceleration. Now with the flashed ECU and some suspension upgrades, it feels OK in STD mode.

WIthout knowing how you are going to ride on the street, or where, or what you want to do... it's hard to say much but I do not regret having the 09... it's a great motorcycle. The 07 might suit your needs/wants but if you handle dirt bikes well, the 09 will feel great. The 07 is not the same... similar but not the same.

Test ride both... it will tell you a lot.
 
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I have no idea why first time bike owners think they are keeping the first bike for years and years...but they never do. The average ownership is 18 months. You might as well ask..."how fast can I die"? It's like...."how much horsepower can I get for the least amount of dollars". Bad idea. Very bad. Also I have no idea why first time bike owners only consider price when buying a bike.

And EVERY single time the experienced guys say ..."don't get a 100hp bike as your first bike"....they do anyway. It defies logic. So really....why ask in the first place?
I appreciate all the input, but this bike will probably be a bike I will have for 3-4 years. Also I didn't only consider the price points at all, I only stated that there was a minimal difference and asked opinions on the matter. Maybe your just tired of seeing posts about this topic. I wouldn't have created this thread if I didn't want advice on your guy's experiences. Also wouldn't have wasted my time with this if I already knew my decision. That being said I really just want a bike to ride back roads on and cruise around town, but I also want to be able to open it up when the opportunity presents itself. I have read alot of peoples concerns on the 14 09's with the suspension and the throttle response. Was wondering if yamaha addressed those concerns with the 15 models. Thanks for all the advice.
 

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I appreciate all the input, but this bike will probably be a bike I will have for 3-4 years. Also I didn't only consider the price points at all, I only stated that there was a minimal difference and asked opinions on the matter. Maybe your just tired of seeing posts about this topic. I wouldn't have created this thread if I didn't want advice on your guy's experiences. Also wouldn't have wasted my time with this if I already knew my decision. That being said I really just want a bike to ride back roads on and cruise around town, but I also want to be able to open it up when the opportunity presents itself. I have read alot of peoples concerns on the 14 09's with the suspension and the throttle response. Was wondering if yamaha addressed those concerns with the 15 models. Thanks for all the advice.
They did "fix" the ECU... doubt they will do much for the suspension but even that might be "ok" depending on your weight. In B mode, unless you are over 200 lb, it will be ok... as you get on it more often, you'll want the suspension to be fixed.
 

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For your first bike? Neither, get an Sv650, you'll save tons of money. Then get an Fz-09 down the road if you still want one.

Dirtbike experience only transfers over the basics of how to ride a motorized bike.
Once you are on the road it is an entirely different animal.
 
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