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i didn't read it as disappointing. it's only disappointing if you were expecting perfection, but no first model year bike is ever perfect from the factory. many bikes aren't perfect several model years later.

he said the engine's great and that it handles and brakes well. so the bike gets the fundamentals right, it just needs some fi and suspension tweaking, which most bikes do.

too bad the details are only in the print version of mcn.
 

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I wouldn't be too worried. Remember that this is only one guy's review and it's not even a full review. I'm really curious to read more than just one reviewer's perspective. He said he doesn't like the tall front end but it isn't that much taller than the FZ8. I think Yamaha took some motard qualities and tried to partially impart them on this bike. We'll see how people like it. My 2nd bike is a 950 Adv and its tall as shit in the front but I don't get a "vague" feel from it. I think it all depends on what you normally ride.
 

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But, the ride-by-wire throttle isn't perfect. I'm having to constantly toggle between the three modes to get a smooth response around town and enough power on the open road. The throttle is far too aggressive most of the time.


I certainly will take that statement with a grain of salt! The DorsoDuro that I had, when it was in sport mode, was extremely sensitive to the touch on the throttle, which I am completely OK with. If you learn to smooth on the brakes and throttle, it becomes a non-issue! Now, if it is a fueling problem, most Times that can be corrected with either a factory correction re-flash or a Power Commander. I will certainly be taking one for a test ride before signing any papers.
 

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But, the ride-by-wire throttle isn't perfect. I'm having to constantly toggle between the three modes to get a smooth response around town and enough power on the open road. The throttle is far too aggressive most of the time.


I certainly will take that statement with a grain of salt! The DorsoDuro that I had, when it was in sport mode, was extremely sensitive to the touch on the throttle, which I am completely OK with. If you learn to smooth on the brakes and throttle, it becomes a non-issue! Now, if it is a fueling problem, most Times that can be corrected with either a factory correction re-flash or a Power Commander. I will certainly be taking one for a test ride before signing any papers.
Unfortunately none of the dealers around me will let you test ride the bike before you buy which sucks. Im definitely going to be watching closely and reading as much as I can in the coming months.
 

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Not a lot you can do about height without affecting the bike's geometry.....raising the fork tubes in the triple clamp. Hard, is a different matter. Softer springs will be available if you run out of adjustment while softening the preload.
 

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I'm wondering if her even played with the adjustable suspension. Either way, I'm not convinced I won't enjoy the bike. This guy is the pro road tester, I'm sure his benchmark for satisfaction is way higher than mine. Firm suspension, rapid throttle, dropped bars, and I think I'll be just fine.
 

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A flash of the ECU might fix any issues but is this guy seriously complaining of too responsive of a throttle? I can't see why that is an issue. Just learn to manage it. Every bike is different.
 

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"But, the ride-by-wire throttle isn't perfect. I'm having to constantly toggle between the three modes to get a smooth response around town and enough power on the open road. The throttle is far too aggressive most of the time."

Bear with me for a second on the Modes:

If I’m not mistaken, each Mode is set up to achieve a different purpose. [That is why it was important for me to understand “how” the Modes “actually’ performed from the professional rider’s observations and experiences.] So, it may possibly be the interpretation that, the Modes did indeed perform “exactly” as they should have. Here is my very respectful and humble interpretation thus far:

If the rider was adjusting the Modes to compensate for mild to moderate congested traffic, then he probably was in the “B” Mode (aka “Rain” Mode). Therefore, he would not have gained the full benefits of power “up top” as quickly as he may have initially thought. If (and I say that with total consideration for his professional experience – which I do not have – and highly respect) then that is something which should have ordinarily been expected. In that respect the “B” Mode did what it was supposed to do.

If the rider was adjusting the Modes to compensate for pulling quickly around traffic and consistently maintaining high speeds, then he probably was in the “A” Mode (aka “Track” Mode). So if he was departing a high speed road or area, and expected a “lesser aggressive” throttle response -- then he would not have found the “smoothness” of said “lesser aggressive” throttle response changing from spirited riding or high speed riding. This is fine, because, the “A” Mode is not purposed towards yielding what I now call “commuter response.” It would probably be better to adjust the Modes for any descent period of time you wish to ride at normal speeds in populated or lower speed areas. In that respect the “A” Mode did what it was supposed to do.

If the rider was adjusting the Modes to compensate for everyday riding then he probably was in the “Standard” Mode (aka “All Purpose” Mode). So if he had good “usable” power for every situational environment and road condition during the short time he has had the opportunity to test the bike so far - and expected different “up top” or “down below” power - then that occurrence would not seem likely to happen. If he had consistent power all the way through the rev-range, with no gaps or lags, then I would venture to say that the “Standard” Mode did what it was supposed to do.

Now Gentlemen (and Ladies, if there be any) --- These are just my humble opinions and thoughts after reading a very limited – first day – one rider test. Please know that I tremendously appreciate any and all reviews from the professional test riders. I enjoy reading their observations and I’m waiting to hear, read, and learn more.

OK…I Hear The Comments Coming! Let’s Have Fun!! Write Away!!!:)
 

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I am nervous about putting down a deposit on a bike sight unseen but Yamaha has always been my most trusted brand. Also I very much foresee a price increase for the next model year if these sell out, which I am sure they will.
 

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nomatter what someone else says I think this bike is gonna be awesome for the money.
A-b-s-o-l-u-t-e-l-y Agree!! I don't think you can really go wrong this bike. Once I sit on it, and hopefully demo it, the next thing I'll be saying is, "...and how long did you say it takes to get the license plate?"
 

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"But, the ride-by-wire throttle isn't perfect. I'm having to constantly toggle between the three modes to get a smooth response around town and enough power on the open road. The throttle is far too aggressive most of the time."

Now Gentlemen (and Ladies, if there be any) --- These are just my humble opinions and thoughts after reading a very limited – first day – one rider test. Please know that I tremendously appreciate any and all reviews from the professional test riders. I enjoy reading their observations and I’m waiting to hear, read, and learn more.

OK…I Hear The Comments Coming! Let’s Have Fun!! Write Away!!!:)
I am surprised that he wanted to "constantly toggle". . Constant toggling seems to be attempting to find from the engine the best of all worlds at all times, which could be fruitless. Surely, you are given a mode choice with such bikes for the circumstances of your ride rather than to force particular bike performance from one moment to the next? But I had thought that I might want to soften the throttle sometimes for a start from stationary. I do not like aggressive throttles at such times. As to suspension "high", I do not yet understand that. The seat is 815mm which is only 10mm higher than my MT-03 and is not a high seat. High in my opinion starts over 825mm. Not sure what he did with the preload. All will be revealed next week, presumably. Must remember that Neeves is a sports bike fan and racer, and there'll be no substitute for carrying out our own test.
 

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As I stated in my previous post..........take One writer's opinion with a grain of salt. There is absolutely NO substitution for being smooth with your throttle inputs AND, if you are going to ride the bike in the "A" mode, then either deal with it or learn better throttle control. It's that simple! Oh...BTW....this comment is NOT directed at you Smokehouse......it's directly at the test rider that wrote the article.
 

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Robodene..........Thanks for the input. That explains a few things about the tester. If he is hardcore in the sport bike arena and is a racer, he is slanted to the forward biased racer position and would certainly feel a little "out of shape" with the upright riding position of the MT/FZ. I would certainly think that if he test rode the bike that he would have tried to make some adjustments on the preload settings if he thought that it was too harsh. Of course, the bike doesn't have an adjustment for compression damping, so he obviously cannot do anything about that on a borrowed test bike. Lighter weigh fork oil could possibly cut down on some of the harshness, but again, it's going to be a personal thing/choice on what you feel when you ride the bike. Personally, I gotten quite accustomed to a fairly harsh suspension from spending so much time on my track bike......compliant, but firm!
 

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I am surprised that he wanted to "constantly toggle". . Constant toggling seems to be attempting to find from the engine the best of all worlds at all times, which could be fruitless. Surely, you are given a mode choice with such bikes for the circumstances of your ride rather than to force particular bike performance from one moment to the next? But I had thought that I might want to soften the throttle sometimes for a start from stationary. I do not like aggressive throttles at such times. As to suspension "high", I do not yet understand that. The seat is 815mm which is only 10mm higher than my MT-03 and is not a high seat. High in my opinion starts over 825mm. Not sure what he did with the preload. All will be revealed next week, presumably. Must remember that Neeves is a sports bike fan and racer, and there'll be no substitute for carrying out our own test.
I was thinking the same thing. You shouldn't be constantly switching. Keep in STD or A mode unless its raining. I would think that changing the mode while you are riding would not be a good idea since you wouldn't be used to the new mode right away.
 
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