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I just received the first release of the Madstad brackets with a smoked grey screen for the FZ9. Unfortunately, my seat is being modified, so it will be another week before I can test it out. It appears the bracket will support a broad range of screens if your willing to drill new mounting holes or you can use the screen supplied by Madstad. The Madstad screens have a attractive FZ9 logo on the bottom and the optics are excellent. I will add better pictures next week during my test ride.

Installation takes about 15 minutes for the Madstad bracket. It is very easy to install. You basically remove the four bolts from flat section above the light. Then attach the base plates using the OEM screws, tighten according to specs and then install the supplied screen with T screws.

To attach the shield to the brackets, take one of the T screws and slide a hard rubber washer on it, then slide it through the windshield hole and slide a soft rubber washer on the back side. This will keep the T screw in the windshield hole so that it does not fall out. Repeat for the other three windshield holes, so when you are done you will have a windshield with four T screws sitting in it with a slightly larger harder rubber washer on the outside of the shield, meaning the front side, and for soft rubber washers pushed up on the back. Then you can lay the windshield gently over the brackets and push the four T screws into the four rubber well nuts and screw them in. You may need to do one side first, for example the left side upper and lower T screws, gently get them started then wiggle the windshield over to get the other two T screws started. Once all four are in, then you can finish tightening them up but don't tighten them too hard. Once the screw tip starts protruding through the backside of the rubber well not, you are done tightening.

By the way, make sure the brackets are set evenly before you start attaching the windshield. If one is a little higher or little lower or tilted a little differently than the other one you might have a bit of a tougher time getting the windshield screws in.



Once the shield is attached to the brackets you are ready for a test ride. Tilt the shield approximately the same angle as your forks, and that should put you close to 60°. The top edge of the shield should be around your chin level so raise it up to that point just for starters. All you need to do to allow movement in the brackets is loosen the black knob on each bracket one or two times and that's enough to free them up for both tilting and sliding up and down. Make sure you read tighten them both before you take off. You don't have to over tighten these knobs either, just make them snug and the whole assembly will stay in place.

Once you go for a test ride, try and see where the airflow is going and how it's clearing your head, your arms, and if any airflow is coming up from underneath the forks of the bike. If you want to make a change such as an angle adjustment or a height adjustment, pull over, come to a stop and then change only one of the two parameters. If you change both the height and the angle at the same time and it gets worse, you won't know which of the two caused the problem, so only change one parameter at a time. You have almost six inches of up and down adjustment range and about twenty five degrees of screen rake adjustment too. I am about 5-9' and in the upper most setting of the brackets, the top of the screen comes to just slightly below my chin. For those opting for even more aggressive wind protection can select a larger screen if you are so inclined from Madstad. The screen can be removed quickly for those days in which you want to ride "naked" style.
 

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That thing is disgusting! I don't care how the "attractive FZ9" logos are, it looks like crap!!!
 

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You're probably right, but the screen is designed for maximum wind protection efficiency when touring and using the bike on a windy day. With the upright sitting position, my feeling is there are too many windscreen options that will look good but not work very well on this bike for extended sport-touring use. It is the typical motorcycle trade-off. The brackets will take ALMOST any screen if you drill the holes. You are only limited by your imagination. The screen now actually looks better from a distance with the screen in the lowest setting and an aggressive rake. I always chose function over form, yea I use to ride a fugly Vee-strom.

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You're probably right, but the screen is designed for maximum wind protection efficiency when touring and using the bike on a windy day. With the upright sitting position, my feeling is there are too many windscreen options that will look good but not work very well on this bike for extended sport-touring use. It is the typical motorcycle trade-off. The brackets will take ALMOST any screen if you drill the holes. You are only limited by your imagination. The screen now actually looks better from a distance with the screen in the lowest setting and an aggressive rake. I always chose function over form, yea I use to ride a fugly Vee-strom.

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We MUST have crossed paths... I'm a stone's throw from Round Rock, and had a madstad on my V-Strom also... Did you have the big TouraTech logo on your bike?
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We MUST have crossed paths... I'm a stone's throw from Round Rock, and had a madstad on my V-Strom also... Did you have the big TouraTech logo on your bike?
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I had a WindStrom windshield w/MadStad brackets with excellent results. I did not have a Touratech logo on my bike.

I am looking forward to testing the FZ9 windscreen when I get my seat back. I think I will be nicely surprised. I'll post better pictures plus take some spirited riding up in the 130 mph to really check the wind-blast with the new screen.

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Hey FZ9-TX-guy,I live about an hour from you south.Say,Ill buy you a cold brew if we could get some feedback on the screen
I talked to Mark this morning @ Madstad and he was waiting for your feedback before he begins the production run.
So hey,the pressure is on you:)
 

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Looks like Cee Bailey has a competing pivoting bracket and shield like Madstad.
I emailed them to see if they have anything in the works.
Cee Bailey makes quality screens with lots of screen shape choices and tints.
 

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Hey FZ9-TX-guy,I live about an hour from you south.Say,Ill buy you a cold brew if we could get some feedback on the screen
I talked to Mark this morning @ Madstad and he was waiting for your feedback before he begins the production run.
So hey,the pressure is on you:)
If the song "Under Pressure" comes on the radio, I am going to turn it off. ;)

BTW, the screen provided by Mark is 18 inches tall and about 17 inches at the widest portion. I will also bring along during the test ride, a Touratech screen lip extender just to see what happens if the screen is a bit larger. The fit and finish is superb. Mark does an exceptional job at design and manufacturing. On a related note, The New York Times had an article about Mark called Inventor Challenges a Sweeping Revision in Patent Law.

The aftermarket seat is being shipped tomorrow from California. The folks at the aftermarket seat company were smitten with the flu virus and as a result it knocked out their staff for several days.
 

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I take it that the prototype Madstad bracket bolted up nicely,that is all Mark said he was
Waiting to hear from you to start the production run.I'm trying to order one.Hint,Hint:rolleyes:
 

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I take it that the prototype Madstad bracket bolted up nicely,that is all Mark said he was
Waiting to hear from you to start the production run.I'm trying to order one.Hint,Hint:rolleyes:
Yes sir! It bolted on quickly and the fitment quality is exceptional. Of course, there will be a debate about the best screen on the bike. Like oil threads, everyone has their bias. The young weekend warrior rider wants a minimalist design, the older guys prefer a taller sport-touring flavor barn door. The Madstad brackets for this reason can support a wide-array of windscreen size configurations.

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First Test
I am 5-9' using an aftermarket seat that raises me about 1 1/2 inches in the seat with full-face helmet.
Screen size: 18 inches tall and about 17 inches wide at the base.

I just did a quick 40 minute test ride in traffic, cruising at around 70 mph going into a 15 MPH headwind at night. The beauty of the Madstad bracket is you have large adjustment range in both the rake of the screen and the height. I found that in today's type of riding, the optimal screen position for me was putting it all the way to the top and tilted as far back as possible. I will include pictures of the screen hopefully this weekend. The Madstad does an excellent job at deflecting the wind and creating turbulence free riding. I will probably opt for a 1 to 2 inch taller screen for long days on the windy highway. But the current set-up is sufficient for more commuting and back road blasting. I rate the screen five thumbs up!

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Second Test

Today I rode over 350 miles on a wide range of conditions and roads. This included going into a 20 mph headwind on the highway, tight back roads and some Texas size dirt roads added to the mix. The Madstad bracket performed very well. The only scenario that needed a taller screen was cruising on the highway into a stiff headwind. I found the Touratech lip extender that adds an extra 5 inches to the screen height to the perfect solution. It may not win any design awards with the extra Touratech lip but it made a dramatic difference in achieving smooth air. For non-highway duty and back road spirited riding, I found the screen worked best raised all the way to the top and tilted back about 50 percent.







 

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I did some experiment on my FZ6R and what work the best is the laminar type. Having a 15 degree deflecting spoiler will be enough to make a nice transition zone between the non moving air and the fast speed air. It will reduce the helmet buffing a lot and you won't need a taller screen.

Look is all up to you. But you gonna get to a point where those little plastic parts that are holding the screen to the bike might give up. Those are not hard point... just a little concern for your safety here. Might not be a bad idea of adding some brace on the handlebars to the mid section of the screen.
 

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I did some experiment on my FZ6R and what work the best is the laminar type. Having a 15 degree deflecting spoiler will be enough to make a nice transition zone between the non moving air and the fast speed air. It will reduce the helmet buffing a lot and you won't need a taller screen.

Look is all up to you. But you gonna get to a point where those little plastic parts that are holding the screen to the bike might give up. Those are not hard point... just a little concern for your safety here. Might not be a bad idea of adding some brace on the handlebars to the mid section of the screen.

when I mounted my homemade screen I also found that the 4 top of the headlight bolts were not hard points. I used 2, but I also used the side bolts at the rear that screw into the triple tree to be a very strong point with no need for a bar bracket then. Madstad looks like they don't used but the 4 top bolts and I wonder how that tall screen will not pull out eventually. I am no engineer but I know "stout" when I see it.
 

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I did some experiment on my FZ6R and what work the best is the laminar type. Having a 15 degree deflecting spoiler will be enough to make a nice transition zone between the non moving air and the fast speed air. It will reduce the helmet buffing a lot and you won't need a taller screen.

Look is all up to you. But you gonna get to a point where those little plastic parts that are holding the screen to the bike might give up. Those are not hard point... just a little concern for your safety here. Might not be a bad idea of adding some brace on the handlebars to the mid section of the screen.
Good point. With speeds above 80 mph, the screen did twitch and arc back slightly with the Touratech lip extender attached going into a headwind. Let's face it, sitting up 90 degrees in the seat is great for ergonomic comfort, but unless you have a fairing with a well designed windscreen, you will get roughed up a bit on long windy rides on the FZ9. The FZ9 by it's design is not a long-distance touring bike, but for me, the Madstad with the Touratech lip extender works very well. The add-on lip is removed in about 2 seconds with it's quick release bracket.

Now what options exist as an alternative to using the extra screen attachment? I have had good results using a Laminar Lip on an existing screen.



Another idea is some type of adjustable wing product found on this first generation FZ1 found on the Twisted Throttle web site.

 
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