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I know this is an apples to oranges comparison, but both bikes are really appealing to me. The Versys looks better equipped (ABS, nicer seat, better suspension for two up and cargo, hard luggage, better wind protection) for about the same cost as the FZ. The FZ has the better motor and I love the simplicity of a naked bike.

How do you think these bikes compare in terms of quality and value? I hadn't considered a Kawasaki at all until the 2015 Versys was announced.


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I put about 35000 ks on a 2010 versys.
2015 seems the same except for styling. The 2010 had poor abs that would come on if the front brakes were on and you rolled over a cats eye lane marker filtering in traffic.

comparing a 2010 versys and an MT....
cheap suspension, but better than the mt09 out of the box.
the motor is nice on the vesys, but the motor on the MT is NIIIIIIIIIIIIICE.
seats are about the same.
MT made is japan, versys made in Thailand.
versys is more sensible, MT is more fun.
 

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I think any bike can be compared to any other bike- it all comes down to what you want out of your bike.

I had considered the Versys before the FZ showed up- I am not a fan of fairings so never got it. Plus my friend got it and did not want me to have the same bike. And for the same price, I got a engine nearly double the power & torque that promised to be a UJM. With a top case and saddlebags, the FZ is every bit a long distance machine as the Versys. I would have liked the ground clearance and large tank of the Versys but hearing about its irksome vibrations and squishy seat from my friend firsthand, I am glad I went with the smoother triple.

The new LT does change the equation-I like the remote adjuster for the rear shock, the adjustable windshield up front, the easy lock saddlebags and the measures to reduce the vibrations. All reviews have been positive. However, if power is important, it is still half of the FZ but not really lacking IMHO- and would definitely be a more capable and comfortable (relatively) long distance tourer if you want it to be- right out of the box. Then, if you want the fairings and all with a more powerful engine, you have the FJ09 for 2k more-though you will have to pump in another grand for some niceties like luggage and heated grips etc. It weighs about the same as the new Versys LT. But you will have that beautiful engine.

Ideally I would like something like the F09 with some Triumph Tiger/F800GS off-road capability and then it would be no contest- but as of now, I think if you are looking for soething under 8.5k, either bike is great. TBH, if I were in the market right now, I would have a hard time choosing one. So my advice is:
- if you ride mostly in an urban environment, get the FZ
- if you are used to riding unfaired bikes over long distances, get the FZ. If not, get the Versys.
- If you are going to be mostly 2-up and don't care for the extra 40 odd hp, get the Versys.
- If you want the best value, I think the Versys is the winner- all that stuff in a competitive package- hard to beat!

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I think any bike can be compared to any other bike- it all comes down to what you want out of your bike.

I had considered the Versys before the FZ showed up- I am not a fan of fairings so never got it. Plus my friend got it and did not want me to have the same bike. And for the same price, I got a engine nearly double the power & torque that promised to be a UJM. With a top case and saddlebags, the FZ is every bit a long distance machine as the Versys. I would have liked the ground clearance and large tank of the Versys but hearing about its irksome vibrations and squishy seat from my friend firsthand, I am glad I went with the smoother triple.

The new LT does change the equation-I like the remote adjuster for the rear shock, the adjustable windshield up front, the easy lock saddlebags and the measures to reduce the vibrations. All reviews have been positive. However, if power is important, it is still half of the FZ but not really lacking IMHO- and would definitely be a more capable and comfortable (relatively) long distance tourer if you want it to be- right out of the box. Then, if you want the fairings and all with a more powerful engine, you have the FJ09 for 2k more-though you will have to pump in another grand for some niceties like luggage and heated grips etc. It weighs about the same as the new Versys LT. But you will have that beautiful engine.

Ideally I would like something like the F09 with some Triumph Tiger/F800GS off-road capability and then it would be no contest- but as of now, I think if you are looking for soething under 8.5k, either bike is great. TBH, if I were in the market right now, I would have a hard time choosing one. So my advice is:
- if you ride mostly in an urban environment, get the FZ
- if you are used to riding unfaired bikes over long distances, get the FZ. If not, get the Versys.
- If you are going to be mostly 2-up and don't care for the extra 40 odd hp, get the Versys.
- If you want the best value, I think the Versys is the winner- all that stuff in a competitive package- hard to beat!

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My advice to the OP is to re-read this post above and go "visit" both Stealerships -- see what you really like eyeball to headlight, butt to seat, and who you're most comfortable dealing with.....although the FZ is not the practical choice IMHO, it's the emotional choice due to hp edge.






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Great answers so far! Thanks! What about quality of Yamaha vs Kawasaki?


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Great answers so far! Thanks! What about quality of Yamaha vs Kawasaki?


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Ten years ago there was more of a difference -- in 2014/2015 I highly doubt it. They all have unique "issues."
 

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Great answers so far! Thanks! What about quality of Yamaha vs Kawasaki?


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This may boil down to which Stealership will actually cheat you right, lol


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Versys is more practical, fz-09 is more fun. The Versys is more comfortable as well.
 
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If I was looking at a 2-up touring machine with luggage, I will admit the 2015 Versys 650 LT is a pretty darn good bang for the buck.

If you did want more HP and torque, for a 2-up touring machine. Then you need to look at the FJ-09, Versys 1000 and V-Strom 1000.

But like Steve said, and I totally agree with. A big part is what you like, how good is the dealer in your area to deal with. Even a great bike can suck if you have to go through a bunch of boneheads to buy parts and get service done.

The big things with any choice, is make sure you get the bike that suits what you intend to use it for. A crotch rocket for lots of 2-up touring???? or a 2-up touring bike for track days???? lol

I always suggest going to lots of test rides on different bikes, then you will find what you really like.
 
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I sold my 2012 Versys to buy my FZ. You seriously need to ride the V before you decide. It had a major issue with the seat & being shoved forward thanks to compression. Fun bike, but it needed a bit of tinkering with to make it comfortable. Otherwise it was a great ride at a relatively cheap price. I loved mine. Cheers, Greg.
 

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To add to Steve's video, here are some more-

UK-based but does confirm that the vibes are gone: (they have the 3rd fully-loaded GT model there!)

And a review by a long-term Versys rider from Motorcycle.com
 

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I really like the new Versys 650 and was looking to add it to my collection of motorcycles. After seeing both the FJ-09 and Versys 650 I could live with either one, but the Versys has a larger gas tank which very important to me. Decided to wait one more year though as I want my touring/commuter bike to have cruise control which should appear on one of these two come 2016.
 

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I went from a grossly underpowered Honda NC700X to thr FZ9 and I couldn't stand to drop 40hp knowing how much more excitement is available in the FZ.
 

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I went from a grossly underpowered Honda NC700X to thr FZ9 and I couldn't stand to drop 40hp knowing how much more excitement is available in the FZ.

Keep in mind that 40Hp to you can be like 60Hp to someone else -- Not everyone here possesses the riding skills you have. Different bikes for different people with differing needs. :)
 

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I went from a grossly underpowered Honda NC700X to thr FZ9 and I couldn't stand to drop 40hp knowing how much more excitement is available in the FZ.
And, guess what. The Honda got the same glowing reviews that all the other new bikes get. Amazing.
 

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And, guess what. The Honda got the same glowing reviews that all the other new bikes get. Amazing.
It really makes you wonder who writes these reviews and how much of it is from a pre-written script???

One reason why I didn't buy into the so called terrible suspension on the 09.

And I kind of liked the old Versys headlight setup, made the bike unique.
 
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It really makes you wonder who writes these reviews and how much of it is from a pre-written script???

One reason why I didn't buy into the so called terrible suspension on the 09.
Mine was terrible. Really terrible. And I'm not a professional reviewer.

But I do agree that sometimes I ride a bike or test drive a car after reading a review and start to question if I'm on or in the same vehicle, lol
 

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Mine was terrible. Really terrible. And I'm not a professional reviewer.

But I do agree that sometimes I ride a bike or test drive a car after reading a review and start to question if I'm on or in the same vehicle, lol
I thought your 09 was a Rapid Red? and not a Rancid Red????

I just mention the "terrible suspension" because we had our big motorcycle show this past weekend. Some dork said the comment, just as he sat on a 2015 Cadmium Yellow FZ-09. "The suspension sucks on these..." Obviously a classic youtube review specialist. He be "special" alright.

Cruise-Retard.jpg

p.s. - That is Tom Cruise, so I am actually making fun of Scientology, just so we are clear here, lol.

I haven't seen any official reviews on the 2015 V-Strom 650? just curious how it compares to the 2015 Versys.
 

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Yammy risked that bad rep by insisting on putting the FZ09 out at less than $8k and compromised on suspension, among a few other items. Had they put the '09 out with good suspension, plus, plus, plus, it would have retailed for over $10,500 and many of us might have looked the other way. Fact. :cool:

I'm sorry to say the (internet) reputation is well deserved
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