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I'm taking a demo tomorrow and I wanted to see what some may suggest for things like tire pressures, basic suspension setup, preload, etc. to assure that I have the best chance to evaluate the bike for what it can be in stock configuration? Tomorrow is the first truly warm day we've yet to have here in north Georgia and I'm looking forward to getting out and finding my next motorcycle.

180 lbs without gear.

Thanks for any thoughts you all may have regarding this.

~fish
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Test A-mode after you get used to it in STD, but do most of your evaluating in STD. Good posture will keep pressure of your wrists and allow you to keep the twitchy throttle in control. Remember that its very light when turning in. If you pin it in 1st, 2nd or 3rd, the front wheel will lift up. All your torque comes early so don't jump the throttle from a stand still. IF you like your rides firm, crank up the suspension dampers.

When cornering, don't roll the throttle to quickly since the torque comes early. You will feel the torque plant the rear tire.

Tire pressure and preload should be okay in stock setup.

have fun and be safe.

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Discussion Starter · #6 · (Edited)
ok you jokesters. i expected that :)

seriously, i have no idea about what lame setup might be on a demo bike. i just wanted to hear something like no less than 32f/36r, front and rear rebound and preload, blah, blah, blah.
i don't think it is unreasonable to expect demo bike setup to be anything other than an after thought for a huge multi-line dealer. the last time i did a demo, it was on a ktm smt 990 with 19 lbs of air in the front tire!

and thanks 748 for your input.

what are stock pressures?
 

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Put it in "A" mode, hold the front brake, shift into first, rev it up to 5,000rpm, slip the clutch to get a nice burn-out going, ease off the brake to start a rolling burn-out.... keep it going with a quick shift to second and transition to a nice power wheelie. Just tell the demo guy's you needed to get some heat into the rear tire before the demo ride started.

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Unless you are some kind of moto-pro...I doubt you are really going to push the bike on your demo ride. Just have fun with it...watch out for the wheelies...bring your check book. Unless you like Harley's, one ride and you'll be hooked.
I've been sick all week, starting to feel better...can't wait to ride tomorrow myself.
 

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Bike should be set and ready to go if not service dept will fix u up. Very light will love the balance of bike feels like u could almost pick it up and put it in the back of a truck. U want have to go all out to see what it is made of perfect around town or country road bike not so much on highway i would stay away from any major highways.
 

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Well...I just got back from the demo ride and as suspected, the bike was not prepped very well. The chain was tight as a banjo string and the front tire was at 27 lbs and the rear was 42 lbs. Practically no preload on the rear. I sent it back and they dialed some preload into the shock and set the tires at stock pressures. They didn't bother to adjust the chain. The bike had been sold, so I was respectful of the new owners equipment and took it easy.

First off, as you all know, the powerplant is sweeeet! And the stock suspension is just adequate for sedate urban riding. I think I want this bike.
Now the not so good news. Why do salesman always change things up at the last minute? When I called last week for a no bull$hit, out the door price, I was quoted $7996.
When we sat down to do the paperwork, it came to $8436. But that was with the $200 fee to bring in a graphite model from another dealer. I didn't say anything about the difference. I told him I understood that ideally he wanted to close the deal today, but that I needed until Monday to decide. He did not hide his disappointment. I'll go back at him with the original $7996, plus the $200 for bringing in a bike from another dealer and stand firm at $8196. After all, $240 could get me a seat cover and windscreen, or half a GPR damper. If he agrees, then I will become a good customer for Nick @ Stoltec. If the salesman doesn't work with me, then I'll wait for something else to come along. I do have other bikes to ride. Thanks for everyone's comments and we will see how it all works out.
You all ride safe.
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They gave you a bike to demo that had already been sold? I hope the owner knew he was getting a demo from the beginning.
 

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I agree, what dealer let's people demo a bike that's sold? In the end, you could probably set up the stock suspension better for yourself than they did, to get a better idea as to how much you need to change.
 

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Well...I just got back from the demo ride and as suspected, the bike was not prepped very well. The chain was tight as a banjo string and the front tire was at 27 lbs and the rear was 42 lbs. Practically no preload on the rear. I sent it back and they dialed some preload into the shock and set the tires at stock pressures. They didn't bother to adjust the chain. The bike had been sold, so I was respectful of the new owners equipment and took it easy.


I cant believe a dealer let someone demo a bike that had been sold. I would go off if the bike i purchased was used for a demo. That is not what any dealer should do. No way should a sold bike have been even sat on. When i bought mine they put a sign up not to touch bike is sold. I cant get over this if something happened the liability that would come to play. This is just unreal i just cant believe this at all.
 

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To be fair to the dealer we don't know all of the story. Maybe the dealer got it as demo bike then someone decided to buy it as a demo bike, dealer asked if it is ok to demo a few more times, and the buyer said yes.
 

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I'm taking a demo tomorrow and I wanted to see what some may suggest for things like tire pressures, basic suspension setup, preload, etc. to assure that I have the best chance to evaluate the bike for what it can be in stock configuration? Tomorrow is the first truly warm day we've yet to have here in north Georgia and I'm looking forward to getting out and finding my next motorcycle.

180 lbs without gear.

Thanks for any thoughts you all may have regarding this.

~fish
...former Tiger 1050 owner

You're lucky you get to test ride! Around here most of the shops don't allow test riding. Kinda sucks so you really gotta do your research. The only advise I would offer is if there is an escort don't pass him, and definitely don't pass him with the front wheel off the ground ;)
 

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The bike being described as "sold" was of concern. As I said, I treated it respectfully and did no harm. I only put 6 miles on it through an Industrial Park and didn't get above 55 in third. I didn't leave a mark on it. I did feel some concern for the ridiculously tight chain, but what's a guy to do? I had been trying to put the demo together for two weeks.
I imagine the dealer makes a decision as to who get's a demo and weighs the pros and cons, and until they have money in hand, they figure they could honestly deliver a bike "as new" that's showing only 11 miles. That's what the odometer had on it when I returned it. The salesmen knew from talking with me that I had the money, but there was going to be no sale if I didn't get a few miles on one. So anyway...I'm not defending the dealer or myself, for that matter. Just trying to give some perspective.

More importantly...I gotta say, I loved that powerplant. It reminded me a bit of the Ducati 796 air-cooled 2 valve. In retrospect, the chassis might be a bit too cramped.
 

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I would have blown a gasket if my bike had 11 miles on it when I picked it up! I'm not blaming you, but from what you've said about this dealer so far (price change, crappy setup, LETTING SOMEONE RIDE A BIKE THEY ALREADY SOLD TO SOMEONE ELSE!!) I'd be taking my business elsewhere. Hope youre able to get one because this is one fun machine!

Daniel
 
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