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I realize winter is over but always looking for the next project for rain days and the next winter. Not going to revel all the plans yet and still have some planning yet. However i came across a wadded up 9er ( squided out) and i found the heart to my own creature. Has anyone heard if someone out there manufacturing aftermarket performance engine parts for the 9ers yet? Figured the stock motor is good BUT would be exciting to see what you could really get out of it with out adding a turbo. :cool: Looking for rods, pistons, cam, springs, valves. pretty much a total tear down rebuild.
 

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I'd like to see someone put the 09 motor in the frame of an R6/R1
 
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I doubt you will find any off the shelf big bore kits for naturally aspirated improvements. You'd have to design your own.
Just buy a turbo kit from extreme creations and call it a day.
 

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I doubt you will find any off the shelf big bore kits for naturally aspirated improvements. You'd have to design your own.
Just buy a turbo kit from extreme creations and call it a day.
The creating is 3/4 of the fun. To be honest i would prob fab my own anyways just would like to see what the big manufactures use as a starting off point. I havent totally ruled out the turbo yet. :evil6:
 

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Might be worth giving kevxtx a pm, he's pretty into 09 performance.
 

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The creating is 3/4 of the fun. To be honest i would prob fab my own anyways just would like to see what the big manufactures use as a starting off point. I havent totally ruled out the turbo yet. :evil6:
I used to have a gsxr with and 87 model 1100 motor, big bored to 1196cc.
Motors from that era were over engineered, and you could get massive HP gains from big bore and cams, carbs.
Modern motors have much tighter tolerances, so the gains aren't as big, much less bang for your buck. And because modem motors have EFI and decent ECUs, a turbo is much easier, and far better bang for your buck than it used to be.
The MT09 motor is new for Yamaha, which means it will be hard to find something that just happens to have compatible Pistons or cams.
I'm sure you'll be able to find something since there is a race series for them, but I doubt it will make it jump to 150HP.
 

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My vote is forced feeding. :) Can't beat a turbo for the power, and the crazy grin it will stick on your face for weeks.

Weeks.

On a bike, a turbo makes me scared, but on other creatures? Oh, that would be fun indeed. :) Get an old ATC 250 frame, wider front arms, longer rear swing arm, and build yourself the ultimate sand dune/dirt ATV. (This engine would be great in a quad, especially with a turbo to really peak the power.)
 

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ATC250 is a 3 wheeler.... no front arms.

My vote is forced feeding. :) Can't beat a turbo for the power, and the crazy grin it will stick on your face for weeks.

Weeks.

On a bike, a turbo makes me scared, but on other creatures? Oh, that would be fun indeed. :) Get an old ATC 250 frame, wider front arms, longer rear swing arm, and build yourself the ultimate sand dune/dirt ATV. (This engine would be great in a quad, especially with a turbo to really peak the power.)
 

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Psshhhh put that triple in a grom!
 
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Put a turbo on it and put the engine in a dirt bike. Old school Yamaha frame and suspension dirt bike would be out of control.
 

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Psshhhh put that triple in a grom!
My buddy just bought one and that was his first suggestion. Just for shits we sized em up and there would be nothing left of the Grom frame lol would literately be all motor. The original plans was it put it into an old Yami '72 xs 650 frame we had laying around. I thought i would make a nice past and present tribute. Add a Duc SSSA, 636 front end, keep the dual rear shock but use the R1 shocks. Use the old sportster tank. However started cutting into the Frame last night and what looked like a good steel frame was less than 1/32" in most places, how it stayed together when we moved it from storage i have no idea. I would like to keep it on two wheels but its back to the drawing board.
 

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I doubt you will find any off the shelf big bore kits for naturally aspirated improvements. You'd have to design your own.
Just buy a turbo kit from extreme creations and call it a day.
I agree with this. Extreme Creations turbo for over 200 horsepower. Then build it like a Classified Moto KT600.

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It is funny how engines have changed over the last couple of decades.

I am in the process of moving and have a few project bikes in various stages of assembly and as a result I have the following engines laying around loose:
1988 FZR400
2002 FZ1
1997 250 Ninja
1990 EX500
The 250 and 500 engines are not very different in design or weight. The 250 is very short stroke of course but I was expecting the 250 to be much lighter than the 500 and it wasn't

I was really surprised with the FZ1 and FZR400 mills as they feel very similar in weight. When I can find my scale, I am going to weigh them just so I know.

As for what I would like to see with the FZ09 engine: I want to see one in a R6 frame and then run it against an equivalently prepped R6 with a pro rider on a race track to see how they compare.

The R1 has much more power and would likely be much faster than the FZ09 engined R6. I could be wrong but it would be worth checking out.
 
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