[Rapid red]

Hi guys,

I stuck my finger (here come the jokes) in the exhaust tonight. My finger came out black. I've also noticed black drops at the exhaust tip almost looks like splashed grease. Is this just soot and condensation? Anyone else noticed this? Go stick your fingers in!

 

[inroads]

Mine has that soot also.A little break in blowby to be expected I guess.

 

[Coreytrevor]

Mine does that too, it's just the water/condensation from the cold exhaust system mixed with the carbon that is in there from combustion. Normal. It's not oil.

 

[Rapid red]

Maybe it is running rich from the factory?

 

[inroads]

Coreytrevor detected no oil usage after 5k miles.that's nice to know.
Might be interesting to get a look at the plugs.
Good point about the condensation from a potbelly bathtub of an exhaust!

 

[deadduck357]

Mine has that soot also.A little break in blowby to be expected I guess.

I hope so cuz mines got it too.

 

[eolith]

the black could just be that the engine is running richer early in it's life until a certain point. Could be unburned fuel. Just a complete W.A.G. though.

 

[Coreytrevor]

Most of that soot/carbon is probably produced when the engine is cold, running on a richer mixture and not burning the fuel efficiently. Just need to take really, really long rides!

 

[Rapid red]

This could be tied in to the defective thermostat post....

 

[Coreytrevor]

Hey, good point!

 

[Rapid red]

Perhaps the bike is running cold, not burning off water vap and the efi is running the bike rich.......hmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[deadduck357]

This could be tied in to the defective thermostat post....

Someone needs to find out.

 

[Rapid red]

This could be a big problem....

 

[inroads]

Need to read the plugs.

 

[baconrocket]

Cars generally run very rich at cold start in order to heat the catalytic converter to the point where it begins working. Since emissions crap has started creeping into motorcycles I'd begin assume that's what is going on.

 

[drev500]

Like others have said, its carbon and moisture. H2O is actually a bi-product when gasoline is burned. This and the condensation on the inside of a cold exhaust (smoking exhaust on start up, thats mostly wator vapor) are what make for the moisture. Carbureted bikes usually have a choke that when engaged, chock off air from the engine making it run rich. This allows the engine to warm up faster. Same principle with fuel injected engines but its done automatically. When the engine runs rich, you'll get a lot of carbon deposits. Combine the water and carbon and you get what you described.

 

[Too Old]

I too would say its normal. You can try running a tank of race gas on a track day at WFO race pace and i bet the pipe will turn a nice gray-white color.

 

[DNFDOUG]

Did you do the suggested easy break-in, or the alternative hard break-in? Easy break-in will cause the rings to seat slowly if not at all which will cause more oil blowby.

 

[Rapid red]

i've riden it normally since i got it.
I agree that water is a by product - that doesn't concern me. The black heavy soot is a product of incomplete combustion or oil blowing by the valve seats.

 

[blurpal1925]

My fan doesn't turn on till like 221 not like my r6 comes on at 210. Seem a little hot to me. But this has to be the most fun I have had on a bike in 30 years of riding