[Buffmoto]

I have a 16 MT09, bone stock, and I am aware of how to wheelie. I have seen videos of people wheeling an MT 09 on third gear, sometimes even a power wheelie. But with my MT although 2nd gear clutch ups are very easy, I'm just not able to get it up on 3rd gear even if I redline it during clutch up in A mode. Is it something to do with it being the first gen or do I need to service it fully?

Any help of guys who have experienced this or have first gen MT09 would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance

 

[superman242242]

With Stock gearing for 3rd gear you have to find the right rpm somewhere between 6-7000 rpm if I remember correctly and let off the throttle to preload the suspension and snap it back full ... I never fully mastered it myself though .

Now that I’ve dropped 1t on my front sprocket it comes up in 3rd with absolute ease in 1-2-3 and I haven’t rlly lost much off the top end . I can still hit go to jail speeds x2 lol

 

[Buffmoto]

With Stock gearing for 3rd gear you have to find the right rpm somewhere between 6-7000 rpm if I remember correctly and let off the throttle to preload the suspension and snap it back full ... I never fully mastered it myself though .

Now that I’ve dropped 1t on my front sprocket it comes up in 3rd with absolute ease in 1-2-3 and I haven’t rlly lost much off the top end . I can still hit go to jail speeds x2 lol

Sounds like you are talking about power wheelies. That means clutch ups would have been easy on third for you, right?

 

[superman242242]

Sounds like you are talking about power wheelies. That means clutch ups would have been easy on third for you, right?

Ah ... I never did many clutch up wheelies cause I’ve heard these bikes clutches don’t like abuse . I’ve done a few though an in my experience it’s around the same rpm . I usually had a 50/50 shot of them working but I’m far from an expert I’m sure others have no problem.

 

[Cw09]

Unless you like replacing clutch baskets your better off clutching it up in second and shifting to 3rd while your up there

 

[shamrock]

CW knows! He has five or six broken baskets sitting on a shelf in his workshop but then ya gotta remember he has something like 160K on his 09.

 

[Efzeeohhnine]

Ah ... I never did many clutch up wheelies cause I’ve heard these bikes clutches don’t like abuse . I’ve done a few though an in my experience it’s around the same rpm . I usually had a 50/50 shot of them working but I’m far from an expert I’m sure others have no problem.

😂😂😂😂

 

[superman242242]

I’m guessing due to your laughing you must be the local professional 3rd gear clutch up master of the eighth dragon 🐉 🙂

 

[Bjork3n]

I do clutch up in third most of the time, its easier to control IMO. 2nd gear is to touchy and agressive.
No problem to pull it up in third gear without the clutch, just a thug backwards and youre front wheel lifts.

I also manged to clutch it up in 4th but it feels like hard work for the motor haha.

Clutch up is 90% techniqe , it needs a lot of practice to do it right.
I started doing wheelies and learning on my kawasaki er6.

 

[motoenthusiast]

I got a nice power third gear wheelie today coming back from the cigar shop, but I have to admit there was a little hump in the road that helped. These 71 year old reflexes aren't what they use to be so I didn't push it too far.

 

[Efzeeohhnine]

I’m guessing due to your laughing you must be the local professional 3rd gear clutch up master of the eighth dragon 🐉 🙂

I’m guessing due to your laughing you must be the local professional 3rd gear clutch up master of the eighth dragon 🐉 🙂

nah...this lmaooo
Ah ... I never did many clutch up wheelies cause I’ve heard these bikes clutches don’t like abuse . I’ve done a few though an in my experience it’s around the same rpm . I usually had a 50/50 shot of them working
Not sure why it was so tickling lol

 

[Ratbike228]

I've been clutching up my 2015 Fz09 in 1st since I bought it in 2015 and not had any problems with the clutch or basket. Bike now has 4800 miles and been clutched up literally thousands of times. This past summer I went down 2 and up 2 on the gearing as I am working on my slow wheelies and its working great! I clutch up, catch it with the footbrake, and go back and forth between the two.

 

[Ljobrien]

Ah ... I never did many clutch up wheelies cause I’ve heard these bikes clutches don’t like abuse . I’ve done a few though an in my experience it’s around the same rpm . I usually had a 50/50 shot of them working but I’m far from an expert I’m sure others have no problem.

The only way to power wheelie third is over a hill clutch ups are actually easiest and smoothest in third I've found. I've even been able to get it up in fourth a few times

 

[Buffmoto]

Thank you all for your replies, I guess something was always wrong with the bike because it was always a struggle to power wheelie in 2nd, it did clutch ups nicely though. Since the past few months, it has simply stopped doing power wheelies at all, even in A mode 1st gear full throttle. I have tried everything to fix it but to no avail.
I guess I'll keep looking for possible issues.

 

[wheelz96]

This bike will power wheelie in 2nd gear if you help it out a little. Meaning, bounce the bars and pull back while WOT around 5-6K. You can also wheelie in 3rd gear which takes the clutch and alot more body movement to pull up the front. I prefer 3rd gear wheelies...

Sounds like you should start with a leak down test to see if you are losing power. Then check valve clearance.

 

[1216bandit]

Only two things cross my mind...loss of power or clutch slipping. As far as the clutch I'm sure you would have recognized that. Have you noticed it not accelerating as hard? A leak down test may be in order as it will tell you the health of your engine.

 

[Buffmoto]

Only two things cross my mind...loss of power or clutch slipping. As far as the clutch I'm sure you would have recognized that. Have you noticed it not accelerating as hard? A leak down test may be in order as it will tell you the health of your engine.

Clutch is brand new. Just had new one 200km ago to eliminate possible issue so its dedinetly not that. I didn't want to consider leak down test since bike is fairly new and oil is changed every 3k km. But since I have eliminated all possible issues, I guess I need to consider that 🥲
And yes, power is definetly off, because in 2nd hear A mode, even if I was bad with the technique and wheel didn't lift off on whacking the throttle , I would still get a good jolt. Now it just accelerates like a kawasaki.

 

[Buffmoto]

This bike will power wheelie in 2nd gear if you help it out a little. Meaning, bounce the bars and pull back while WOT around 5-6K. You can also wheelie in 3rd gear which takes the clutch and alot more body movement to pull up the front. I prefer 3rd gear wheelies...

Sounds like you should start with a leak down test to see if you are losing power. Then check valve clearance.

Since it hasn't covered that many kms, I didn't want to consider those issues, but I have eliminated all other possibilities. So I guess I'll have to do those as well. 🥲

 

[wheelz96]

You have stated "it has simply stopped doing power wheelies at all, even in A mode 1st gear full throttle". If your bike is not lifting the front in 1st gear WOT, you are down on power. Sounds like clutch should be fine but something is wrong. You can start with thermometer gun (or hand test) and check each header for heat to see if your down a cylinder. Maybe its simple like loose coil, bad plug, plugged injector, or pinched fuel line. If the easy things check good then you need to do a leak down.

Does bike have ECU flashed or piggyback unit?

Hopefully you find issue soon and get back to 1 wheel my friend!

 

[Buffmoto]

You have stated "it has simply stopped doing power wheelies at all, even in A mode 1st gear full throttle". If your bike is not lifting the front in 1st gear WOT, you are down on power. Sounds like clutch should be fine but something is wrong. You can start with thermometer gun (or hand test) and check each header for heat to see if your down a cylinder. Maybe its simple like loose coil, bad plug, plugged injector, or pinched fuel line. If the easy things check good then you need to do a leak down.

Does bike have ECU flashed or piggyback unit?

Hopefully you find issue soon and get back to 1 wheel my friend!

Ah yes, the header test, I shall do that tomorrow.
It does have a flash but its been running the same flash ever since the issue popped up. I even tried going back to OEM values on ECU but nothing.
I shall do the header check followed by (god forbid) leak down test.
Appreciate the help my one wheel bretherin.