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This is a discussion on How to install APE CCT. within the Yamaha FZ-09 Guides and How-To's forums, part of the Yamaha FZ-09 Garage category; Thanks marty for the great post great information good pictures very easy to do following your instructions only took me less than an hour J ...

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    Thanks marty for the great post great information good pictures very easy to do following your instructions only took me less than an hour J V

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    Thanks Marthy. It took me longer to drive to the store to get a 14mm Allen than it did to do the install. Only one question left. How tight is too tight.

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    Welcome guys! Glad the thread is helping you out... and I didn't do it for nothing. LOL

    If you followed the procedure until the chain get snug and don't move from side to side... then back it off a bit, you should be fine. You should be able to slightly move the chain from side to side once it's all lock up. Little bit too much loose will be a bit noisy. Main thing you don't want is too tight with the chain not moving at all.

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    Marthy, I can't thank you enough for all the info you have posted to this forum. I did the ninja shock swap as well with your great pic's and instructions. I just finished the ape cct install. my cam chain cover had no gasket! put a light coating of 1194 on it and buttoned it up. sounds great, just a light tick on start up. thank you again
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    I have put on 200mi. since above post. noticed a high frequency vibration/buzz that wasn't there before ape cct install. most noticeable 5k to 6k rpm. not scientific but my bar end mirrors never blurred before and my feet and fingers feel a tingle. reinstalled stock cct and it went away! after trying various adjustments to the ape cct it seems one half turn out (loose) from marthys slight side to side chain movement is best. any tighter and buzz increases. there is more chain rattle noise but mirrors do not get as fuzzy.
    my guess is vibration is from varying chain slack that was absorbed buy the stock cct oil and spring pressure. I would love to know the oil pressure difference in the engine between the ape and stock cct (way above my mechanical ability)! I wonder if ape knows and that's why the instructions say to block off oil passage with there unit? any thoughts on long term damage from reduced oil pressure or if is related to the buzz? thanks!
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    I installed the APE manual CCT last night. Marthy, your "how-to" was very helpful; thanks for taking the time and effort to document your installation.

    I found that the bolts provided by APE for fastening the CCT body to the engine were going in hard. I removed them and tried reinstalling them several times, but they always came to a point where I was not comfortable applying any more torque for fear of breaking them or stripping the bolt or hole. In the end I used the OEM bolts. In hindsight, and after looking at the APE bolts after they were removed, I think it is likely that some remnants of the original thread-locker fell into the bolt hole making the bolt a tighter fit. I am not sure why the OEM bolts went in easier though.

    Other than the bolts everything went well. BTW, I used the finger-tight method for initial adjustment of the APE CCT, similar to when I installed a set-screw to keep the OEM CCT from backing out. I ran the engine afterward and no cam chain noise, even at 3000-5000 RPM. I hope to ride test it today.
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    how important is it to remove the cover and "lock" the slider in place with pliars or something similar? I ask because I've put mct's on bikes before and never done this and never had a problem just put it to tdc.... or is it different being a triple as somebody said earlier? the engine is more prone to roll over because of the 120* crank?
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    how important is it to remove the cover and "lock" the slider in place
    I don't know, but I think somewhere on this thread it stated that this was a Yamaha recommended procedure.

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    No sure if this is a Yammy procedure or not but it's an extra step for a piece of mind. Lile you said a typical 4 cylinder engine get in balance every 90 degree of cam, so it doesn't move as easy. This triple is a PITA! The timing mark are not even to TDC if you need to line everything up... thay says it all. LOL

    If you're gentle with the cover the gasket should be reusable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marthy View Post

    1. Remove the LH side engine case cap using a 14mm allen socket (same as front wheel) and remove the 6mm bolt with a 5mm allen. A 19mm socket is required to turn the engine over CCW. Turn until the timing marks line up inside the small hole




    2. Use some tape to protect the frame over the CCT. First remove the inner bolt, toward the middle of the engine.



    3. Here I will suggest you to go an extra step. Removing the RH side cover will make sure the chain doesn't skip a tooth and it will make it much easier to adjust the chain. I use my plier and some duct tape on the tip of the pliers to gently wedge between the engine case and the CCT slider.
    About to tackle the job...APE CCT install.
    Am I correct in understanding that step #1 can be eliminated (bypassed)???
    Thanks for the info here, Marthy and other!
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