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This is a discussion on Max preload front and rear will it harm suspension within the FZ-09 Performance & Suspension forums, part of the Yamaha FZ-09 Garage category; I just set my bike max preload front and rear and 1/2 turn out front and rear on rebound. Will this effect the life of ...

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    Max preload front and rear will it harm suspension

    I just set my bike max preload front and rear and 1/2 turn out front and rear on rebound.
    Will this effect the life of my suspension being at the extreme max of its adjustment?
    I can't afford new set up for a while. Probably a couple years at least.
    I weigh about 200 lbs.

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    No, but that's no way to setup suspension.

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    Here are some easy to follow instructions to set your suspension sag, off the RaceTech website. FAQ

    Max preload front and rear will it harm suspension-racetech-sag-settings.jpg

    Setting sag by MC Garage

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    No more unnecessary farkles/add ons for you until you save enough to upgrade your suspension . Anyone 200+ # who says their stock suspension works fine probably hasn't ridden an upgraded suspended FZ-09.
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    You can take a reasonable crack at the frontend with $20 in oil and $70 for springs. Or if you can finagle someone to send you some loose shims and a better mid-valve piston you're going to look not too shabby for $120. just bring tools and labor.
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    I'll have to have a friend help me set the static sag. Thank you for the information and video.

    it seems to be the general consensus I need springs.
    I just have a hard time replacing parts on a bike I just bought brand new!
    I even still have the dunlops on it at a bit under 2500 miles. I did get a rear pilot power 2 today. I'll install that maybe at 3k or so.
    So about 100$ and thr front end is good, the rear I will probably have to re spring too, so that the suspension works even and no wobbles.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MC357 View Post
    I just have a hard time replacing parts on a bike I just bought brand new!
    There's your first mistake. It may look like an assembled motorcycle but what the Yamaha dealer handed you was keys to a kit.

    > So about 100$ and thr front end is good

    "good" is such a strong word in this context. I would characterize the result as somewhere in the neighborhood of "tolerable" or "pretty decent" depending on your level of expectations.

    > the rear I will probably have to re spring too, so that the suspension works even and no wobbles.

    The rear needs a rework/revalve more than it needs a spring. That'll run you $220. You don't even need to resort to downtime, a redone OE shock (optional respring) can be sent to you and all you need to do is swap one for the other and send yours back or try to sell it on ebay or whatever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MC357 View Post
    I'll have to have a friend help me set the static sag. Thank you for the information and video.

    it seems to be the general consensus I need springs.
    I just have a hard time replacing parts on a bike I just bought brand new!
    I even still have the dunlops on it at a bit under 2500 miles. I did get a rear pilot power 2 today. I'll install that maybe at 3k or so.
    So about 100$ and thr front end is good, the rear I will probably have to re spring too, so that the suspension works even and no wobbles.


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    Yeah ... Yamaha seems to think the average weight of an FZ-09 rider is 175#. We 'Mericans must be bigger than our Euro/Asian/Aussie counterparts . I initially went the .95/5 wt front spring route (225# geared). While it was a nice improvement, it still was a bit harsh. At 200#, I'd go the .90 route. Hit up Matt (pattonme) for some Sonic springs and oil recommendation. Inexpensive good start.
    Also get a hold of Terry at Norwest suspension as he is the one who can revalve/spring your OEM shock. He did mine and it also is a nice improvement over the rear on a budget.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pattonme View Post
    The rear needs a rework/revalve more than it needs a spring. That'll run you $220. You don't even need to resort to downtime, a redone OE shock (optional respring) can be sent to you and all you need to do is swap one for the other and send yours back or try to sell it on ebay or whatever.
    Who offers this? Cuz I TOTALLY didn't take the same approach OP did and ride on it for 2.5 years... I'd be interested in some very budget minded options that don't involve cutting on my bike if you know of any, especially if it means I don't have to give up a ton of seat time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pattonme View Post
    You can take a reasonable crack at the frontend with $20 in oil and $70 for springs. Or if you can finagle someone to send you some loose shims and a better mid-valve piston you're going to look not too shabby for $120. just bring tools and labor.
    Hi, Have been searching for information to fix the adreani cartridge inserts and see that you come highly recommended for a fix. Have also been talking to Kevxtx from this forum about a fix. He said that he got your fix set to him and he is very happy with the end result for the MT09. I would like to purchase the same kit and have it sent. Would you be able to do this? Plse let me know the cost for the kit and post to the Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia. Oh. Riding weight is 85kgs.


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