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    Canadians, need some guidance here.

    Hey guys,

    My friend just moved to Toronto from Singapore and is finding it a hard country to start biking. I never knew it would be so hard to start off there! My questions below are for him- any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

    1. He now figured out that he could probably get a M2 license to begin with- he has a license from Singapore to ride motorcycles though...is there a way he can get a full license? And how fast?

    2. He needs some good motorcycle gear- are there any physical store locations that he could go in the Toronto area? And are there online shops based in Canada?

    3. Any other pointers for owning and riding a motorcycle in Canada.

    Thanks again!

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    1. "... After 22 months, you can take the second road test. If you pass, you get a full M licence."
    Linkage: https://www.ontario.ca/driving-and-r...rcycle-licence

    2. Canada's Motorcycle is a good online store and based in St.Laurent, Quebec.

    3. Have a place to store it during the winter... outside it can get buried in snow and then rammed by the plow...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mothy View Post
    1. "... After 22 months, you can take the second road test. If you pass, you get a full M licence."
    Linkage: https://www.ontario.ca/driving-and-r...rcycle-licence

    2. Canada's Motorcycle is a good online store and based in St.Laurent, Quebec.

    3. Have a place to store it during the winter... outside it can get buried in snow and then rammed by the plow...
    Thanks for the tips..
    So does that mean, it is impossible to ride during winter? Aren't the streets in Toronto plowed regularly? Or is it only possible to ride on studded tires/

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    I'm sure the roads would be clear enough to ride some days, but it can get pretty cold... and if they're like us in the Maritimes, there will be a lot of salt or other anti-icing compounds on the road which tends to cause a lot of corrosion. I had two rides last winter here during a couple of thaws. Not sure what winter in TO is really like, but I know they have their storms like we do... probably just as miserable as we are!
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    Ontario:
    Studded tires may only be used North of Parry Sound and Nipissing districts and only from October 1 to April 30.
    Northern Ontario residents may use studded tires anywhere in the province during this time.
    Southern Ontario residents may only use studded tires in Northern Ontario. They could face a $1,000 fine if caught using them in Southern Ontario.
    It would seem studded tires are illegal in Toronto and the rest of Southern Ontario...
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    Damn....you Canadians are pretty strict. And pretty specific! Why not in Southern Ontario?

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    The full regulations can be found here: Highway Traffic Act - R.R.O. 1990, Reg. 625

    The important bit:
    9. (1) No person shall operate a vehicle equipped with studded tires on a highway unless all of the following conditions are met:

    1. The vehicle is operated during the period starting on September 1 and ending on May 31.

    2. The permit holder of the vehicle is,

    i. a resident of Northern Ontario,

    etc...
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    Quote Originally Posted by motorock View Post
    Damn....you Canadians are pretty strict. And pretty specific! Why not in Southern Ontario?
    I guess they feel it damages the road... plus the liability of flying studs?
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    Toronto is further south than several US states/cities. They don't get too many days where the roads are snow covered. Temp fluctuates from below freezing temps to above.

    There's a great brick and mortar store just outside of the city called GP Bikes. Another large one on the city limits is Royaldistributing
    In the city I know of Snowcity Cycle.

    Online Canadian sites: Bluestreakracing.ca, www.canadasmotorcycle.ca.

    Not much info on the Ontario Gov't website, other than if here for more than 3 months (visiting), your friend will need an International Drivers Permit from the country where he received his lincense. ontario.ca/driving-and-roads. I'll keep poking around to see if there's more info.
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    Here's some more info I came across:

    drivetest.ca/EN/licencing

    If you are a newcomer to Ontario and hold a driver's licence from another province or country, you are required to apply for an Ontario driver's licence within 60 days of residing in Ontario. If you hold a non-Ontario licence, you are legally allowed to drive in Ontario for 60 days before an exchange is required.
    If you have less than two years of full class driving experience, you may get credit for your experience for graduated licencing and be issued a Class G2 or M2 licence. Once you have a total of two years of driving experience, you may take the G or M road test to earn full driving privileges.

    If you hold a controlled class licence from a Canadian province or territory, once you are eligible to attempt the G road test, you must pass the road test within one year of the licence exchange to be issued the equivalent controlled class licence. If you pass the G road test after one year from the date of exchange, you will be issued a class G licence.

    These conditions also apply to licenced motorcycle riders from other Canadian provinces, the United States, Australia, Northern Ireland, Switzerland and Canadian Forces Europe. However, there is currently no exchange agreement for motorcycle riders from the remaining jurisdictions.
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